Black Tuesday? - Page 3

Paul Precht · 12-13-2009, 08:47 PM

If NHRA really wanted to make their AHFS work and catch all those who sandbag they would use the 1/8 mile ET for the trigger, things would be different for sure, Paul.

Sean Cour · 12-13-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Precht

If NHRA really wanted to make their AHFS work and catch all those who sandbag they would use the 1/8 mile ET for the trigger, things would be different for sure, Paul.

Paul-

The fast guys know how to slow their cars down before the 1/8th mile marker, as well as the 1/4.

Toby Lang · 12-13-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Cour

Seriously, I don't see too many "class racer's" having a problem with running under the new indexes. IMO

You may be right, but I'm sure there will be some people who will have problems running under the new indexes. Especially at certain tracks like Bristol, but let's not get into that right now. Let's just assume that everybody can run under the new indexes without any problems.

How will lowering the indexes help you win more rounds in eliminations?
How will lowering the indexes help you win more races?
How will lowering the indexes help you win more heads-up races?
How will lowering the indexes help you win more class eliminations?
How will lowering the indexes help you be number one qualifier more often (if that's your gig.)?

-Toby

Paul Precht · 12-13-2009, 09:00 PM

Yes, thats a very good point but slowing their cars down before the 1/8th mile could be a fatal decision in a heads up run, Paul.

Dave Turner · 12-13-2009, 09:07 PM

I guess it's time to get that Ak Miller triple carb manifold dusted off..........

"Dear NHRA tech......."

thomas sheehan · 12-13-2009, 09:08 PM

Does everyone realize this POST should be broke up into TWO different topics?

#1 - as Toby is asking.... Why lower all indexes... it is debatable.

#2 - if trigger in 2009 is -1.15 and -1.40..... where will it end up in 2010 (if indexes are changed). Should it be even harder to trigger a review/or easier- which will have more impact to our class?

You can't debate one subject without looking at both - BUT they are two seperate subjects.

Sean Cour · 12-13-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby Lang

You may be right, but I'm sure there will be some people who will have problems running under the new indexes. Especially at certain tracks like Bristol, but let's not get into that right now. Let's just assume that everybody can run under the new indexes without any problems.

How will lowering the indexes help you win more rounds in eliminations?
How will lowering the indexes help you win more races?
How will lowering the indexes help you win more heads-up races?
How will lowering the indexes help you win more class eliminations?
How will lowering the indexes help you be number one qualifier more often (if that's your gig.)?

-Toby

It's not about any of your concerns. It's about you taking your stocker and running superstock. It's about the guys running at the bottom with "stock" parts now having to actually purchase performance parts from the dying contingency companies. C'mon Toby, it's not a conspiracy against the "brake pedal bandits," it's simply a business decision.

7423 · 12-13-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Cour

It's not about any of your concerns. It's about you taking your stocker and running superstock. It's about the guys running at the bottom with "stock" parts now having to actual purchase performance parts from the dying contingency companies. C'mon Toby, it's not a conspiracy against the "brake pedal bandits," it's simply a business decision.

I have watched Steve Wann run Super Gas with his Super Stocker. None of the S/G guys cared. If they did not delete classes at nationals, that would not happen........

X-TECH MAN · 12-13-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sean cour

it's not about any of your concerns. It's about you taking your stocker and running superstock. It's about the guys running at the bottom with "stock" parts now having to actual purchase performance parts from the dying contingency companies. C'mon toby, it's not a conspiracy against the "brake pedal bandits," it's simply a business decision.

bingo !

Sean Cour · 12-13-2009, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 7423

I have watched Steve Wann run Super Gas with his Super Stocker. None of the S/G guys cared. If they did not delete classes at nationals, that would not happen........

Charlie-

Until they stop allowing stockers to enter superstock. Filling the fields before some poor sap with a superstocker could enter, then you're right, no reason, based on your example. I just think that when a "legal" stocker can run eight tenths under in superstock, there's a problem somewhere. Just my opinion.

BTW, nice meeting you in Pomona.

12-13-2009, 08:47 PM	#21
Paul Precht Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Elysburg, Pa Posts: 731 Likes: 355 Liked 316 Times in 119 Posts	Re: Black Tuesday? If NHRA really wanted to make their AHFS work and catch all those who sandbag they would use the 1/8 mile ET for the trigger, things would be different for sure, Paul.

12-13-2009, 09:00 PM	#24
Paul Precht Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Elysburg, Pa Posts: 731 Likes: 355 Liked 316 Times in 119 Posts	Re: Black Tuesday? Yes, thats a very good point but slowing their cars down before the 1/8th mile could be a fatal decision in a heads up run, Paul.

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Dave Turner VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Schomberg, ON, Canada Posts: 1,222 Likes: 1,606 Liked 364 Times in 138 Posts	Re: Black Tuesday? I guess it's time to get that Ak Miller triple carb manifold dusted off.......... "Dear NHRA tech......." __________________ Dave Turner SS/GT #1153

12-13-2009, 09:08 PM	#26
thomas sheehan Photographer Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,717 Likes: 24 Liked 75 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Black Tuesday? Does everyone realize this POST should be broke up into TWO different topics? #1 - as Toby is asking.... Why lower all indexes... it is debatable. #2 - if trigger in 2009 is -1.15 and -1.40..... where will it end up in 2010 (if indexes are changed). Should it be even harder to trigger a review/or easier- which will have more impact to our class? You can't debate one subject without looking at both - BUT they are two seperate subjects. __________________ Tom Sheehan SS GT/NA 1046