Black Tuesday?

Sean Cour · 12-13-2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kent Hanley

I agree to the part of Toby's comment ( not sure what gheyest is ) raising the triggers vs changing the index's

Kent-

Ghey is a west coast description of something that's stupid. I was hoping for five tenths reduction and raising the trigger. lol! Seriously, I don't see too many "class racer's" having a problem with running under the new indexes. IMO

7423 · 12-13-2009, 08:38 PM

Maybe someone out there can help me understand why they would change the indexes. Anyone with a real answer???
Jack Matyas, your are a sensible guy, your thoughts please.....

Jeremy · 12-13-2009, 08:45 PM

About Time!! Index's have been way to easy way to long!

Paul Precht · 12-13-2009, 08:47 PM

If NHRA really wanted to make their AHFS work and catch all those who sandbag they would use the 1/8 mile ET for the trigger, things would be different for sure, Paul.

Sean Cour · 12-13-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Precht

If NHRA really wanted to make their AHFS work and catch all those who sandbag they would use the 1/8 mile ET for the trigger, things would be different for sure, Paul.

Paul-

The fast guys know how to slow their cars down before the 1/8th mile marker, as well as the 1/4.

Paul Precht · 12-13-2009, 09:00 PM

Yes, thats a very good point but slowing their cars down before the 1/8th mile could be a fatal decision in a heads up run, Paul.

thomas sheehan · 12-13-2009, 09:08 PM

Does everyone realize this POST should be broke up into TWO different topics?

#1 - as Toby is asking.... Why lower all indexes... it is debatable.

#2 - if trigger in 2009 is -1.15 and -1.40..... where will it end up in 2010 (if indexes are changed). Should it be even harder to trigger a review/or easier- which will have more impact to our class?

You can't debate one subject without looking at both - BUT they are two seperate subjects.

Toby Lang · 12-13-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Cour

Seriously, I don't see too many "class racer's" having a problem with running under the new indexes. IMO

You may be right, but I'm sure there will be some people who will have problems running under the new indexes. Especially at certain tracks like Bristol, but let's not get into that right now. Let's just assume that everybody can run under the new indexes without any problems.

How will lowering the indexes help you win more rounds in eliminations?
How will lowering the indexes help you win more races?
How will lowering the indexes help you win more heads-up races?
How will lowering the indexes help you win more class eliminations?
How will lowering the indexes help you be number one qualifier more often (if that's your gig.)?

-Toby

Sean Cour · 12-13-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby Lang

You may be right, but I'm sure there will be some people who will have problems running under the new indexes. Especially at certain tracks like Bristol, but let's not get into that right now. Let's just assume that everybody can run under the new indexes without any problems.

How will lowering the indexes help you win more rounds in eliminations?
How will lowering the indexes help you win more races?
How will lowering the indexes help you win more heads-up races?
How will lowering the indexes help you win more class eliminations?
How will lowering the indexes help you be number one qualifier more often (if that's your gig.)?

-Toby

It's not about any of your concerns. It's about you taking your stocker and running superstock. It's about the guys running at the bottom with "stock" parts now having to actually purchase performance parts from the dying contingency companies. C'mon Toby, it's not a conspiracy against the "brake pedal bandits," it's simply a business decision.

7423 · 12-13-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Cour

It's not about any of your concerns. It's about you taking your stocker and running superstock. It's about the guys running at the bottom with "stock" parts now having to actual purchase performance parts from the dying contingency companies. C'mon Toby, it's not a conspiracy against the "brake pedal bandits," it's simply a business decision.

I have watched Steve Wann run Super Gas with his Super Stocker. None of the S/G guys cared. If they did not delete classes at nationals, that would not happen........

12-13-2009, 08:45 PM	#3
Jeremy Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 95 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Black Tuesday? About Time!! Index's have been way to easy way to long!

12-13-2009, 08:47 PM	#4
Paul Precht Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Elysburg, Pa Posts: 731 Likes: 357 Liked 321 Times in 119 Posts	Re: Black Tuesday? If NHRA really wanted to make their AHFS work and catch all those who sandbag they would use the 1/8 mile ET for the trigger, things would be different for sure, Paul.

12-13-2009, 09:00 PM	#6
Paul Precht Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Elysburg, Pa Posts: 731 Likes: 357 Liked 321 Times in 119 Posts	Re: Black Tuesday? Yes, thats a very good point but slowing their cars down before the 1/8th mile could be a fatal decision in a heads up run, Paul.

12-13-2009, 09:08 PM	#7
thomas sheehan Photographer Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,717 Likes: 24 Liked 75 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Black Tuesday? Does everyone realize this POST should be broke up into TWO different topics? #1 - as Toby is asking.... Why lower all indexes... it is debatable. #2 - if trigger in 2009 is -1.15 and -1.40..... where will it end up in 2010 (if indexes are changed). Should it be even harder to trigger a review/or easier- which will have more impact to our class? You can't debate one subject without looking at both - BUT they are two seperate subjects. __________________ Tom Sheehan SS GT/NA 1046

12-13-2009, 08:38 PM	#2
7423 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 639 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Black Tuesday? Maybe someone out there can help me understand why they would change the indexes. Anyone with a real answer??? Jack Matyas, your are a sensible guy, your thoughts please..... Last edited by 7423; 12-13-2009 at 08:40 PM.