Team Mopar Records Unofficial Fastest Pass in Pro Stock Hist

[Andys dad]

Originally Posted by Mickey Whaley

When they go through NHRA tech, fuel, weight, and the spoiler and templant system, then run that fast I will believe it!

I have always wondered why they go out and waste precious - valuable - testing time by running illegal just to make themselves feel good - then have to change the whole car back to legal - not sure what they learn by running hot fuel or running light - weight distribution is a big deal - different body which would not pass the template test - a wing that is applying incorrect down force

Just does not make sense to me but you guys on here probably know it all better than I do


:-) peace

[Pvt Parts]

Originally Posted by Andys dad

I have always wondered why they go out and waste precious - valuable - testing time by running illegal just to make themselves feel good - then have to change the whole car back to legal - not sure what they learn by running hot fuel or running light - weight distribution is a big deal - different body which would not pass the template test - a wing that is applying incorrect down force

Just does not make sense to me but you guys on here probably know it all better than I do


:-) peace

Simple, exposure for the sponsor and mental intercourse for the competition. I'm sure the body would pass tech but fuel and weight are another issue.

[chris3racing]

Please help me, does no one know where Pro Stock came from. The very cars run today as Super Stockers were the "Pro Stocker" of the early 70's. The Dusters, Cudas. Camaros and Mustangs. Ed I agree with your comments completely. It is simply amazing how these cars can go down a track at the ETs they run with pistons, fuel and carbs. Talking with guys like Allen Johnson and how they make those things tick is like talking with Jenkins, Jake King or Hubert Platt years ago. When you look at a heads up Pro Stock race and at the stripe there is 3" different. Come on guys is there always something wrong with everything anyone does especially if it is a MOPAR. That complaining has been going on for over 40 years, I know from experience.

[Andys dad]

Originally Posted by Pvt Parts

Simple, exposure for the sponsor and mental intercourse for the competition. I'm sure the body would pass tech but fuel and weight are another issue.

OK that explains it - the sponsors are anxious to get ink from a test session - I would think the team would rather make advances to get ready to show off on ESPN at Pomona

Oh well I am not to old to learn new stuff about why the Pro Stock teams test before Pomona - and you are probably right - I am sure these numbers really got into the heads of Greg, Jason, Mike and the others


Good night

:-) peace

[Frank Castros]

Originally Posted by herbjr

You guys know the head off a ford and dodge will interchange except for valve covers right. All the clutches are a neutral pattern on the crank. They are high dollar Air Pumps with a sticker on it. Why do you think the heads will interchange between the ford and dodge, well it made the switch easy for Larry Morgan.

That's my point about Pro Stock in a nutshell. It has strayed too far from the original concept.
Sure we can learn from Pro Stock and NASCAR for that matter as this is where the technology trickles down to even Stock Eliminator.
Who wins means very little to me.

[Jeff Teuton]

They learned from NASCAR. Mental Intercourse. Must be a course not offered when I went to school. But then I was in lunch line when the Nina, Pinta, and Santa Maria pulled up.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

They learned from NASCAR. Mental Intercourse. Must be a course not offered when I went to school. But then I was in lunch line when the Nina, Pinta, and Santa Maria pulled up.

Warren used to call it intellectual intercourse.

[cutta]

I think it funny that so many people think that it makes sense to waste money running the car light when you won't learn squat from it and that is not going to help you going forward.

Here's some food for thought for you guys, in the threads I have read where former Pro Stock racers or current Pro Stock racers have commented in response to the Mopar team "supposedly" running the car light, both have denied that claim stating that its a waste of money and time to do so. Not to mention, nobody is running their A motors out there anyway. At best these are probably the #3 or #4 engines.

Testing is meant to do one thing, learn how to tune the car better and learn whether new experiments work or not. It just so happens that when these guys run in winter, the weather is perfect. 700DA are not common conditions for PS cars to run in and as such you don't see super duper fast runs at events during the year. And when they do get great weather, its usually not as good as winter test session weather. Englishtown is a great example. It was on the verge of being too cold and the cars were spinning on a regular basis. Only a few got a handle of the track. Not to mention, there are not near as many cars going down the track during testing. Honestly, you would probably be better off going to some 1/4mile bracket event or PBIR(w/ the fuelers) to test cause conditions are a little more realistic.

The run was impressive and it was better than the rest on those days but 4 big names were not there and Vegas will be the real test to see who gonna do well at Pomona.

[Andys dad]

Originally Posted by cutta

I think it funny that so many people think that it makes sense to waste money running the car light when you won't learn squat from it and that is not going to help you going forward.

Here's some food for thought for you guys, in the threads I have read where former Pro Stock racers or current Pro Stock racers have commented in response to the Mopar team "supposedly" running the car light, both have denied that claim stating that its a waste of money and time to do so. Not to mention, nobody is running their A motors out there anyway. At best these are probably the #3 or #4 engines.

Testing is meant to do one thing, learn how to tune the car better and learn whether new experiments work or not. It just so happens that when these guys run in winter, the weather is perfect. 700DA are not common conditions for PS cars to run in and as such you don't see super duper fast runs at events during the year. And when they do get great weather, its usually not as good as winter test session weather. Englishtown is a great example. It was on the verge of being too cold and the cars were spinning on a regular basis. Only a few got a handle of the track. Not to mention, there are not near as many cars going down the track during testing. Honestly, you would probably be better off going to some 1/4mile bracket event or PBIR(w/ the fuelers) to test cause conditions are a little more realistic.

The run was impressive and it was better than the rest on those days but 4 big names were not there and Vegas will be the real test to see who gonna do well at Pomona.

Well said - exactly what I have been saying

Why waste the valuable and precious time?

Weight distribution is very very important and even 40 lbs would make a difference in clutch and suspension set up

[John Kelley]

Originally Posted by Andys dad

Well said - exactly what I have been saying
Why waste the valuable and precious time?

Did you pay attention to LAST YEAR'S pre season testing times and Winternationals qualifying times ?
Apparently not.......... :-)