2017 to 2018 Rule Amendments

Jim Kaekel · 11-01-2017, 04:47 PM

If I'm reading it right, it looks like any Stock Eliminator car that runs 10.99 or quicker will be required to have a SFI trans shield. Can this be right?

Signman · 11-01-2017, 05:11 PM

Looks about right same as ET Racing. Never looked were 9 second and faster stockers not running a trans shield?

Looks like OEM electronic shift only so e-shift, electric and air shifters may be done.

ss3011 · 11-01-2017, 08:05 PM

Our local track requires a shield for cars running faster than 10.99 .

Ken Kopecky · 11-02-2017, 09:24 AM

Is there an expiration date on these shields? I read somewhere that NHRA says 3 years but I don't have a current rule book to verify.

Ken Kopecky
1454 E/SA

Signman · 11-02-2017, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken Kopecky

Is there an expiration date on these shields? I read somewhere that NHRA says 3 years but I don't have a current rule book to verify.

Ken Kopecky
1454 E/SA

Trans Shield: Rigid - 5 yrs; Flexible - 2 yrs

Mickey Whaley · 11-02-2017, 09:45 AM

Maybe throttle stops with a timer so we can run 11.00

btrc · 11-02-2017, 09:51 AM

I would think it would be better to have listed an index or class break-off. As it is you can have two cars in the same class, maybe even the same combo, that would have different rules. One that runs 10.98 needs the shield and one that runs 11.02 doesn't need one.

Bobby Fazio · 11-03-2017, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Signman

Looks about right same as ET Racing. Never looked were 9 second and faster stockers not running a trans shield?

Looks like OEM electronic shift only so e-shift, electric and air shifters may be done.

Elegal shift is done? Or the shifter can't be electric controlled? Air shifters were allowed in stock? Big rule change here that needs some elaboration.

Michael Beard · 11-03-2017, 09:40 AM

OMG.... how do you think they do tech at bracket races? Go through tech: "How fast do you run?" "10.50's" "OK, you need XYZ." This is NOT hard.

And YES, the tech guys already watch E.T.'s. A friend has always wanted to run a 9.99 just once with his Stocker, but doesn't have a full cage. He was specifically told there would be no grace period. One 9.99 and he was out of the event.

Again, the idea that one car running 10.80's requires far more stringent safety standards than an identical car running 10.00 is ludicrous. It also creates a potentially massive problem with insurance. What happens when a 10-oh car wrecks with a roll bar, -1 suit, etc., and the insurance company says, "Why didn't this car and driver meet the same safety standards as this other car that's much slower, but requires a full cage, -5 suit, competition license, ad infinitum?"

SS3718 · 11-03-2017, 09:52 AM

Michael,
Some of the bracket races I've watched here lately doesn't appear to have any rules when it comes to safety....helmet mandatory, everything else is optional. It's not my style but it also doesn't directly impact me!

If you want the simplest rule when it comes to safety....everyone should wear the same thing and have the same requirements. After all, your 10.50 car is running against 8.50 cars going 160+.

Nick

11-01-2017, 04:47 PM	#1
Jim Kaekel VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,227 Likes: 133 Liked 531 Times in 108 Posts	2017 to 2018 Rule Amendments If I'm reading it right, it looks like any Stock Eliminator car that runs 10.99 or quicker will be required to have a SFI trans shield. Can this be right? __________________ Jim Kaekel 3836 STK

11-01-2017, 05:11 PM	#2
Signman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lower Slower Delaware Posts: 535 Likes: 22 Liked 269 Times in 99 Posts	Re: 2017 to 2018 Rule Amendments Looks about right same as ET Racing. Never looked were 9 second and faster stockers not running a trans shield? Looks like OEM electronic shift only so e-shift, electric and air shifters may be done. __________________ Frank Ferrucci I/SA 1271 "Be Thankful for the Gifts You are Given"

11-01-2017, 08:05 PM	#3
ss3011 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Southeast Michigan Posts: 909 Likes: 70 Liked 239 Times in 114 Posts	Re: 2017 to 2018 Rule Amendments Our local track requires a shield for cars running faster than 10.99 .

11-02-2017, 09:24 AM	#4
Ken Kopecky Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Edison, NJ Posts: 235 Likes: 374 Liked 273 Times in 56 Posts	Re: 2017 to 2018 Rule Amendments Is there an expiration date on these shields? I read somewhere that NHRA says 3 years but I don't have a current rule book to verify. Ken Kopecky 1454 E/SA

11-02-2017, 09:45 AM	#6
Mickey Whaley VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,220 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: 2017 to 2018 Rule Amendments Maybe throttle stops with a timer so we can run 11.00

11-02-2017, 09:51 AM	#7
btrc Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 253 Likes: 286 Liked 84 Times in 42 Posts	Re: 2017 to 2018 Rule Amendments I would think it would be better to have listed an index or class break-off. As it is you can have two cars in the same class, maybe even the same combo, that would have different rules. One that runs 10.98 needs the shield and one that runs 11.02 doesn't need one. __________________ Bob Tilton 568 FS/H

11-03-2017, 09:40 AM	#9
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: 2017 to 2018 Rule Amendments OMG.... how do you think they do tech at bracket races? Go through tech: "How fast do you run?" "10.50's" "OK, you need XYZ." This is NOT hard. And YES, the tech guys already watch E.T.'s. A friend has always wanted to run a 9.99 just once with his Stocker, but doesn't have a full cage. He was specifically told there would be no grace period. One 9.99 and he was out of the event. Again, the idea that one car running 10.80's requires far more stringent safety standards than an identical car running 10.00 is ludicrous. It also creates a potentially massive problem with insurance. What happens when a 10-oh car wrecks with a roll bar, -1 suit, etc., and the insurance company says, "Why didn't this car and driver meet the same safety standards as this other car that's much slower, but requires a full cage, -5 suit, competition license, ad infinitum?" __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS Last edited by Michael Beard; 11-03-2017 at 09:46 AM.

11-03-2017, 09:52 AM	#10
SS3718 Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 129 Likes: 5 Liked 27 Times in 14 Posts	Re: 2017 to 2018 Rule Amendments Michael, Some of the bracket races I've watched here lately doesn't appear to have any rules when it comes to safety....helmet mandatory, everything else is optional. It's not my style but it also doesn't directly impact me! If you want the simplest rule when it comes to safety....everyone should wear the same thing and have the same requirements. After all, your 10.50 car is running against 8.50 cars going 160+. Nick