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Old 11-16-2024, 12:40 AM   #1
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Hey Alan,


The AHFS is their enemy, not me. And on the subject of an HP hit (due to the AHFS and engine family rules therein my specific 99hp combo was hit in June 2003 with 6hp (6?25.00lbs=150 extra lbs.) An A/SA taking a 6 hp hit=24 lbs. Extra.
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If your 99hp combo was hit with 6hp (is it 99 now or 105) it doesn’t matter it is about 6.25% which according to AHFS is a run 1.350-1.399 under. A similar run in my A stock car results in +25hp or 200lb. (If I’m doing my math right)

Not saying your +6hp was right or wrong but the comparison is off a bit.
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Old 11-16-2024, 09:40 AM   #2
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Gary,
My position was not that the AHFS is perfect, it isn't. Nothing man made is.


It probably should be "graduated" a bit, top to bottom. I doubt they'll take the time and make the effort.


Nothing wrong with what you're doing, or how. I don't think anything in my post states that.




Mike,
Thanks for doing the math.
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?IF? indexes are lowered will the association racer groups such as Midwest Class Racers follow suit? Or will they keep the door open for the folks that still desire racing their S/SS based cars that can?t make the ?new? indexes?
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All those question marks in my post were not inserted by me. They automatically appeared???
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Old 11-17-2024, 12:42 PM   #5
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Mike, it is currently 105, and I know Alan, just stating the reality I am dealing with and I am attempting hard to overcome and that it is not something that can be fairly dealt with top to bottom blanket equal index changes or reductions.

Flat stuck at the moment w/a Holley engine/sensor harness I am building from scratch to solve some of the issues, and hopefully there are solutions to finish it soon and workarounds that can be applied to make all the theory work to fit reality, even if not all features of the software are instantly available right away.

If I can just adjust the fuel map, base and total timing, maybe get 2 step feature, and a few critical safeties (while removing the coded safety I suffer with most in the original stock logic module), some if not all of the data logging features, then I will be in a much better position and not be struggling as much.

But, I have to have ignition to get off the launch pad, and that is where I am now In my wiring connection dilemma.
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Old 11-17-2024, 02:11 PM   #6
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Mike, it is currently 105, and I know Alan, just stating the reality I am dealing with and I am attempting hard to overcome and that it is not something that can be fairly dealt with top to bottom blanket equal index changes or reductions.

Flat stuck at the moment w/a Holley engine/sensor harness I am building from scratch to solve some of the issues, and hopefully there are solutions to finish it soon and workarounds that can be applied to make all the theory work to fit reality, even if not all features of the software are instantly available right away.

If I can just adjust the fuel map, base and total timing, maybe get 2 step feature, and a few critical safeties (while removing the coded safety I suffer with most in the original stock logic module), some if not all of the data logging features, then I will be in a much better position and not be struggling as much.

But, I have to have ignition to get off the launch pad, and that is where I am now In my wiring connection dilemma.
There is a reason I will forever be stuck in the '60s LOL
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Old 12-23-2024, 09:39 AM   #7
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Recent communication with SRAC says NHRA will NOT be lowering indexes. Carry on...
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All those question marks in my post were not inserted by me. They automatically appeared???
The site does not respect punctuation anymore. It throws question marks instead!
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Old 11-17-2024, 01:56 PM   #9
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All those question marks in my post were not inserted by me. They automatically appeared???
If you post then go back to edit you can correct the punctuation marks.
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If you post then go back to edit you can correct the punctuation marks.
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