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Old 04-13-2023, 01:24 AM   #1
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Old School SS and Stock racer, we don't have bracket cars, we race for performance. But please don't do anything to put HP on me.
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Old 04-13-2023, 08:54 AM   #2
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I think there are several reasons that the AHFS causes so much angst among Stoch/Super Stock racers. The first reason is I’ve never see a stated goal of the system from NHRA other than the vague control out of control combinations. We can all agree it never did a very good job of that. Another reason is that there are several subsets of racers among our classes, each with different goals. There is one group that is perfectly happy running an obscure class .2 or .3 under the index and racing to win rounds. There are people in our classes that still receive their satisfaction by building all their own stuff and making it as fast as they can. There are people who are happy buying a complete car and just being able to go racing. There are your people who want to win clas and be the fastest in the land who are willing to do the work and spend the money to get there. I’m sure you can think of other subsets. We all have goals for our racing and while winning Wally’s is the top goal we each have different performance goals. I have never been the fastest in the land but going to Indy and trying to be is what keeps me thinking about our cars, talking to people about things that might help, trying different things, and going to the shop every day. With all of these different goals I don’t see how the AHFS can ever be balanced to make everybody happy. Mike McMahan 2543 G,H/SA
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Old 04-14-2023, 11:47 AM   #3
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Mike,
Great Post!
You covered a lot of territory.
Now if NHRA will just raise the Quota
they might take advantage of the AHFS being suspended.
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Old 04-14-2023, 12:36 PM   #4
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Mike,
Great Post!
You covered a lot of territory.
Now if NHRA will just raise the Quota
they might take advantage of the AHFS being suspended.
Raising the quotas may be a lost cause. I was shocked Vegas didn’t feel. Rest assured they are keeping track of entries vs. quotas to justify them.
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Old 04-14-2023, 12:58 PM   #5
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Raising the quotas may be a lost cause. I was shocked Vegas didn’t feel. Rest assured they are keeping track of entries vs. quotas to justify them.
Of course they are! Because the structure of the entry system provides an easy justification for lowering the quotas every year.

Set the quota at 70, a race fills at 70, then the Monday before the race it drops down to 62...
Next year, the quota is set at 60, fills at 60, then the Monday before the race, it drops down to 53...
And so it goes...

OR, we can always use the rain-infested year as a basis for future years. Only 48 stockers at Maple Grove because it's a wash-out until Sunday morning? Huh, better set the future quota at 50!

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I hear you Nick, in this case though I don’t believe it ever filled (I’ve been watching it for a 2-3 weeks but could be wrong) and the weather forecast for Vegas is great. Just figured Vegas would fill based solely on the dwindling D7/D6 opportunities.
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Old 04-14-2023, 01:45 PM   #7
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The Vegas national event was full in Stock. Late withdrawals lowered the number, which always happens regardless of the quota allowed. Watch the double Divisional next week end, numbers will be higher.
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Raising the quotas may be a lost cause. I was shocked Vegas didn’t feel. Rest assured they are keeping track of entries vs. quotas to justify them.
it was up too 79 cars at one time. NHRA got their money anyway.
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Old 04-18-2023, 09:06 AM   #9
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Folks can’t imagine how much time, effort, thought, dyno pulls, track rental,
and money that was spent to get my stuff ready for Indy in the truck.
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Folks can’t imagine how much time, effort, thought, dyno pulls, track rental,
and money that was spent to get my stuff ready for Indy in the truck.
You could probably offset the cost of the truck if you got into the ice cream business. Wonder if you'd be allowed a soft serve machine in the back as ballast. LOL
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