Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68

[DeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by Rat Patrol

1969 now published. Thank you both for your help.

https://skunkwerkssuperstock.wordpress.com/1969-2/

Awesome!
A couple things I caught:
FACTORING:
The 428/335hp-CJ R-code RamAir was factored to 360hp
The 428/335hp-CJ Q-code NonRamAir was factored to 340hp

I'm not sure on the AMX factoring, I had 400hp, not sure if 420hp fits the class or not. Curious where you found that?

WINTER:
You have Harvey's SS?/I car at 340hp, which is the correct factor, but most places you list the factory rated hp, not NHRA factored.

SPRING:
Re SS/Eliminator SS/GA Poole, there were NO 428-2x4v Cobra Jets. All single 4v. The SS/GA Cobra Jets were R-code ram air factored at 360hp.

The B/SA=8.00 Ben Wolf car:
Bottom line is I dont know WHAT that car was.
No 68-69 Pontiac fits B/SA=8.00 class unless the engine was factored way above its factory rating.
The only factoring I've heard on the 400 Pontiacs is that:
* ALMOST always, the FIrebirds were refactored to the GTO rating
* The RA4 was factored to 380hp, at least in 1970-71. I've always assumed that was true for 1969 as well.
* The RA2 had to be factored to about 375hp in 1970-71 for eg the Truman Fields car to run where it did, D/S=8.50 class in 1971.

Is it POSSIBLE that the RA4 was factored to at least 395hp, maybe 410-425hp, to allow the FIrebird or GTO to fit the Ben Wolf B/SA=8.00 win?
Sure, but I have no direct evidence this happened. That nmeant the RA4 got factored DOWN to 380hp in 1970, and down-factoring was rare but not unheard of.

So, we just dont know.
A 69 Firebird has to be factored to at least 395hp to fit B/SA=8.00.
A 69 GTO has to be factored to at least 415hp to fit B/SA=8.00.
Maybe the Ben Wolf car wasnt even a Pontiac? Do we know?

The F/SA=10.00 Dick Simon car, again I still dont know WHAT it was. His Fairlane ragtop doesnt fit that class with any engine. Coulda been a Fairlane but not the ragtop.

INDY:
I like seeing that big Pontiac win with the 421-6v under there. Not a usual combo you see winning at a National event.

The picture of the Roush 69 Mustang Ragtop 1511 SS/HA=9.50 is at the 71 Nationals, not the 69 Nationals. In 1969, SS/HA=9.00 class and the ragtop was too heavy for that class.

Allie would have run a 69 Fastback or Coupe in 1969=SS/HA=9.00 class, not sure which one either fits.

They used to play with the class letters almost every year back then, super confusing.

FOMOCO:
The big (3600 lb shipping wt, over 3800 lb on the street) Fastback Cobra/Cyclone indeed won several in SS/J=10.00 and SS/JA=10.00 classes. I have
Winter
Payne SS/J
Caster SS/JA
Spring
Payne SS/J
Glidden SS/JA
Indy
Johnson SS/JA Cyclone

The only time that combo did NOT win was SS/J at Indy, won by a little cussball Chevy II 327/275hp. Those cars are so light they're known to pop the windshields out if the car hooks up with the stock unibody.

CHEVY:
The ZL1 NHRA weight is 3124 lb not 2800 lb.
The L79 66 Nova came in at 2800 lb though.

PONTIAC:
The Max Sterling picture is not a 62 Cat 421/405sd.
I think that picture in your writeup is a 61, maybe his previous car?
Here is a picture from Petersen of Max's *62* White Lightning car

https://archive.petersen.org/pages/p...php?ref=316653

Confusing because both cars are #1310.
Glad we have oldskool here because all this Pontiac stuff is very confusing, still.

MOPAR:
AFAIK the Street Hemi was always factored to 480hp, 1966-71.

All in all a superbly enjoyable writeup.
Great service to history.

EDIT: I did this post 29 October, but did some edits on 30 October, just put them in here to keep it all in 1 spot. Still catching up on pgs 11-15 of the thread!