2017 to 2018 Rule Amendments

[midnightbluS10]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

OMG.... how do you think they do tech at bracket races? Go through tech: "How fast do you run?" "10.50's" "OK, you need XYZ." This is NOT hard.

And YES, the tech guys already watch E.T.'s. A friend has always wanted to run a 9.99 just once with his Stocker, but doesn't have a full cage. He was specifically told there would be no grace period. One 9.99 and he was out of the event.


Again, the idea that one car running 10.80's requires far more stringent safety standards than an identical car running 10.00 is ludicrous. It also creates a potentially massive problem with insurance. What happens when a 10-oh car wrecks with a roll bar, -1 suit, etc., and the insurance company says, "Why didn't this car and driver meet the same safety standards as this other car that's much slower, but requires a full cage, -5 suit, competition license, ad infinitum?"

Somebody want to clarify this for me? Are you talking about 2 of the exact same car having the differences listed or are you comparing a something like 2014 COPO Camaro to a 1970 Nova, for example?


If it's the latter, or anything similar, the reason should be obvious One is built with better safety standards, characteristics, and features built into the car and they're taking that into account, it would seem. Is it right? I have no idea. I'm no engineer or crash expert or anything else like that lol.

If you're comparing 2 of the same car then I don't have any ideas. Sorry.

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by midnightbluS10

Somebody want to clarify this for me? Are you talking about 2 of the exact same car having the differences listed or are you comparing a something like 2014 COPO Camaro to a 1970 Nova, for example?


If it's the latter, or anything similar, the reason should be obvious One is built with better safety standards, characteristics, and features built into the car and they're taking that into account, it would seem. Is it right? I have no idea. I'm no engineer or crash expert or anything else like that lol.

If you're comparing 2 of the same car then I don't have any ideas. Sorry.

275hp carbureted 360 in my Volare in SS/GT can run 10.00 with a roll bar, -1 suit, etc.
275hp EFI 360 in my Volare, FGT requires full cage, -5 suit, etc... all of the 9.99-quicker requirements but at ANY E.T.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

275hp carbureted 360 in my Volare in SS/GT can run 10.00 with a roll bar, -1 suit, etc.
275hp EFI 360 in my Volare, FGT requires full cage, -5 suit, etc... all of the 9.99-quicker requirements but at ANY E.T.

My favorite example:

A newbie with a 5.0 Mustang wants to try M/SA with NHRA..13 second car at altitude.
He needs a roll bar , 2 year belts , jacket, pants.
Or, he stays in brackets or test and tune nights, and needs none of the above, down to 11.50.
I talked to Bruce about this several years ago, and he sort of agreed with me.He said he'd bring it up.
Never heard any more about it.
Doesn't seem to matter to NHRA. They don't want the new kid anyway, unless he's willing to shell it out for 5-6 divisionals.

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

My favorite example:

A newbie with a 5.0 Mustang wants to try M/SA with NHRA..13 second car at altitude.
He needs a roll bar , 2 year belts , jacket, pants.
Or, he stays in brackets or test and tune nights, and needs none of the above, down to 11.50.
I talked to Bruce about this several years ago, and he sort of agreed with me.He said he'd bring it up.
Never heard any more about it.
Doesn't seem to matter to NHRA. They don't want the new kid anyway, unless he's willing to shell it out for 5-6 divisionals.

Yup.....made same point moving to NHRA.
Mike Beard made similar point earlier too.
Plus need a custom gas tank and special fuel.

Like I mentioned earlier ... NHRA needs us.
If NHRA relaxed to the 11.50 rule more of us would be right there!

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[Bob Mulry]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

Yup.....made same point moving to NHRA.
Mike Beard made similar point earlier too.
Plus need a custom gas tank and special fuel.

Like I mentioned earlier ... NHRA needs us.
If NHRA relaxed to the 11.50 rule more of us would be right there!

D

The last thing that NHRA needs is you......

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

The last thing that NHRA needs is you......

I nominate this for POST of the year.......

[Hacksaw]

I disagree with Bob and MJ . Our sport needs people with passion and desire, also willing to support from the financial side, like Dan. The problem here is that he would rather focus his efforts on change instead of conform. He just needs to throw away his "King" of Pure Stock status and fit in, or back off.

[James Perrone]

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

The last thing that NHRA needs is you......

Sooooo true. I can’t stop laughing. Delusional Dan.
BINGO

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

Yup.....made same point moving to NHRA.
Mike Beard made similar point earlier too.
Plus need a custom gas tank and special fuel.

Like I mentioned earlier ... NHRA needs us.
If NHRA relaxed to the 11.50 rule more of us would be right there!

D

Actually, Dan may have a point here this time.
If he wanted to hop is up a little to run low 12's in J/SA, why should he need a roll bar, etc.?
Are 11.50 bracket cars generally considered better prepared, maintained, and therefore safer than Stock Eliminator cars?

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Actually, Dan may have a point here this time.
If he wanted to hop is up a little to run low 12's in J/SA, why should he need a roll bar, etc.?
Are 11.50 bracket cars generally considered better prepared, maintained, and therefore safer than Stock Eliminator cars?

Correct Mark
Simple as a better cam, springs, more gear to compete !
Might even see an interest to move to the higher classes.

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