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Old 03-10-2011, 12:35 PM   #21
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If it did indeed happen the other week with another car, why didn't they just issue a bulletin, a rule clarification? If one guy does it, there are probably more out there either effected, or people considering the upgrade to their car. They should just let everyone know where they stand on the issue and be done with it. It shouldn't have taken Kenny to bring this to light.

As for the rule itself, NHRA says "same manufacturer" and then backtracks when THEY allow the manufacturer to run things in Stock that shouldn't be there in the first place.

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EXACTLY! NHRA should have issued a tech bulletin, published online and in the Dragster, clarifying the rule. And if they don't do it next week, you can be sure they're holding off so that they don't have to apply it in a case where they don't want to. THAT is a problem I have with all of this.
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Old 03-10-2011, 12:47 PM   #22
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EXACTLY! NHRA should have issued a tech bulletin, published online and in the Dragster, clarifying the rule. And if they don't do it next week, you can be sure they're holding off so that they don't have to apply it in a case where they don't want to. THAT is a problem I have with all of this.
When they told me at E'town last year not to come back with my fenders. They sent a formal letter to me and CC it to all division directors. It was quite an embarassment to me. All over a couple of holes in fenders that had inner fenderwells and was absolutly no aerodynamic or performance advantage.
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Great post Michael (spelled your name correctly) LOL, this organization called NHRA developed these classes called stock and super stock a long time ago. It should have been their responsibility to make known to all members what is legit and what is not, what is acceptable and what is not. To clerify or not to clerify, they have had years and years to put this in place. No one at NHRA has taken this and run with it, tech seems to always be a mystery, what are they looking for this week or next week. Publish on line or in Dragster what they found and whether or not it is acceptable or not, then everyone (including us members) would be on the same page.
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Another question, If NHRA would have told him to change it by the next race ,would Ken have told everybody that , or would it not be mentioned till it was set as an example ? If Ken would not have said anything now ,this would still be a little secret. I respect Ken for telling it so it would not happen to others......I also think Ken would have told it if he was given til the next race. You have my respect Ken...This is two ways of looking at it from both sides. Shady rule as you say anyway....
X 2 Ken is and always has been a straight up guy.
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Alan, Chuck, Michael, I have ALWAYS believed that the rules are intentionally left vague because NHRA does not want us "all on the same page". THAT would give us all something in common to fight for.
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When they told me at E'town last year not to come back with my fenders. They sent a formal letter to me and CC it to all division directors. It was quite an embarassment to me. All over a couple of holes in fenders that had inner fenderwells and was absolutly no aerodynamic or performance advantage.
Damn....I KNEW you were cheating....The acid dipping made holes in your fenders LOL.....Im just kidding Art. They (NHRA) have treated you (and Ray) in a chicken s##t way on lots of occasions. Especially the deck height ruling a few years ago. What crap !
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Great post Michael (spelled your name correctly) LOL, this organization called NHRA developed these classes called stock and super stock a long time ago. It should have been their responsibility to make known to all members what is legit and what is not, what is acceptable and what is not. To clerify or not to clerify, they have had years and years to put this in place. No one at NHRA has taken this and run with it, tech seems to always be a mystery, what are they looking for this week or next week. Publish on line or in Dragster what they found and whether or not it is acceptable or not, then everyone (including us members) would be on the same page.
Tech is a major pain in the butt for NHRA with the stock and S/S cars. It takes a lot of man hours to keep up with all of whats going on today. Its not as easy as when the "Farmer" was doing it when there were less classes and less engine combos to keep up with.
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Damn....I KNEW you were cheating....The acid dipping made holes in your fenders LOL.....Im just kidding Art. They (NHRA) have treated you (and Ray) in a chicken s##t way on lots of occasions. Especially the deck height ruling a few years ago. What crap !
The fenders were on my Neon they were fiberglass I tried to acid dip them but my acid must not have been strong enough. I'll have to have a talk with my drug dealer.
On our Challenger Greg used to personally test our fenders for chemical cleaning. He would put his or Marty Barret's bellies on them. If they din't bend they were good to go.
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Terry I agree with you, and it is their show, but let's face it, they opened up this can of worms by allowing all of these enhancements that we have today. Enforcing these enhancements has made it very difficult for the tech guys, who I think do a great job and put in a lot of hours. Just like trying to reduce the deficit, putting this type of program in place would take time and probably more people.
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The fenders were on my Neon they were fiberglass I tried to acid dip them but my acid must not have been strong enough. I'll have to have a talk with my drug dealer.
On our Challenger Greg used to personally test our fenders for chemical cleaning. He would put his or Marty Barret's bellies on them. If they din't bend they were good to go.
LOL....Yeah I remember both of those guys doing that. I thought they were testng the front springs of the cars also. They would each take a fender and talk about a guys carb for what seemed like days....LOL Marty could really push a cars front end down. I bet he didnt lean on very many Z-11 or MoPar Alum. fenders back in the day.

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