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Old 03-08-2009, 07:11 PM   #1
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I just had a phone call from a good friend Dave and he suggested that the upper classes stayed at 1/2 lb wt breaks down to the 11 lb class (Currently "G") due to the higher HP ratings then go with full lb breaks for the rest (12 on down). Give a wt reduction of about 50 lbs for the automatics from about "M" (14 lbs) on down. Theres all kinds of ways to reduce the number of classes and still be fair. He also said the reason the class win money is low is because of way to many classes. He also suggested a name for the association. What about the AHRA ("Alternative" Hot Rod Association) unless someone still holds the rights to the AHRA name......lol ?
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Old 03-08-2009, 07:26 PM   #2
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I just had a phone call from a good friend Dave and he suggested that the upper classes stayed at 1/2 lb wt breaks down to the 11 lb class (Currently "G") due to the higher HP ratings then go with full lb breaks for the rest (12 on down). Give a wt reduction of about 50 lbs for the automatics from about "M" (14 lbs) on down. Theres all kinds of ways to reduce the number of classes and still be fair. He also said the reason the class win money is low is because of way to many classes. He also suggested a name for the association. What about the AHRA ("Alternative" Hot Rod Association) unless someone still holds the rights to the AHRA name......lol ?
Or maybe that's it. Revive the AHRA under a new brand. That's an interesting question, if someone does still hold the rights to that name? I always thought they had the neatest decal anyway. I had an old AHRA t-shirt, wore that thing till it became nothing but a faded rag, LOL! Still have it in a paper bag upstairs somewhere.

I think that's it, BRING BACK the AHRA!!!!!!

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Old 03-08-2009, 09:08 PM   #3
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Robert Swartz:

I did forget about the GT Stock, Crate Motor Class & The Pure Stock Classes. My Mistake.

We can add them in too, no problem. But did you get the idea that I was trying to come up with ??

Just trying to lessen the classes. Run Class run offs with less classes, like Jeff Lee said.

How 'bout the entry fee, say it's $160. for arguements sake, take $100. a car & put it towards Class Elim.
Money, the other $60. goes towards the Handicap Elim. Money.
Say your running the A & B Class and 22 cars show up, take the 22 cars times $100. = $2200.
I don't know if you want to pay winner & runner up or what.??? we need help in this area.

The other $60. goes towards the "Handicap Elim". money pay out. if you had 32 total classes x $60.
that comes out to $1920.

Just trying to come up with ideas on a payout system.

What'dya think Terry

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Old 03-09-2009, 03:51 AM   #4
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Robert Swartz:

I did forget about the GT Stock, Crate Motor Class & The Pure Stock Classes. My Mistake.

We can add them in too, no problem. But did you get the idea that I was trying to come up with ??

Just trying to lessen the classes. Run Class run offs with less classes, like Jeff Lee said.

How 'bout the entry fee, say it's $160. for arguements sake, take $100. a car & put it towards Class Elim.
Money, the other $60. goes towards the Handicap Elim. Money.
Say your running the A & B Class and 22 cars show up, take the 22 cars times $100. = $2200.
I don't know if you want to pay winner & runner up or what.??? we need help in this area.

The other $60. goes towards the "Handicap Elim". money pay out. if you had 32 total classes x $60.
that comes out to $1920.

Just trying to come up with ideas on a payout system.

What'dya think Terry

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Pete,

I get your premse, regarding the lessening of the classes. I agree. I'd blend what both you and Dick Butler propose. Look at the combination of both weight breaks and indexes. Lump the various classes together using those. Go to full pound breaks, then even things out using the indexes. Like Dick Butler said, get people used to larger classes. I remember the large events in the 70's, you'd have a boatload of cars contesting class. I remember local events in the early 70's that it wasn't unusual to have run 3-4 rounds just to get into the eliminator.

It would be a little complicated but just need some homework. The guys doing the initial entry inspections would have a sheet in front of them. As the cars are teched, you'd be assigned a class based on that factoring. That way we'd keep out #HRA designation, just shoe polish your determined time. If we're allowd to dial under for the eliminator. For me that may not be a problem, early on, LOL!

Need to go earn some money today,
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Old 03-09-2009, 12:19 PM   #5
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Did I read in one of the early posts that the races were going to be run with a comp. style CIC? Now I read people talking about shoe polish. Which is it? If you want spectators you have to leave the shoe polish home. IMO
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Did I read in one of the early posts that the races were going to be run with a comp. style CIC? Now I read people talking about shoe polish. Which is it? If you want spectators you have to leave the shoe polish home. IMO
The races with a CIC like comp was for the "Quick 32" in stock and S/S. The regular eliminators would be run as it is now in NHRA and IHRA.
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Old 03-09-2009, 12:51 PM   #7
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The races with a CIC like comp was for the "Quick 32" in stock and S/S. The regular eliminators would be run as it is now in NHRA and IHRA.
The Quick 32 in 2001, was an all out race . I believe the CIC trigger should be atleast 1.15 under, if you are going to change the format.
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Robert Swartz:

I did forget about the GT Stock, Crate Motor Class & The Pure Stock Classes. My Mistake.

We can add them in too, no problem. But did you get the idea that I was trying to come up with ??

Just trying to lessen the classes. Run Class run offs with less classes, like Jeff Lee said.

How 'bout the entry fee, say it's $160. for arguements sake, take $100. a car & put it towards Class Elim.
Money, the other $60. goes towards the Handicap Elim. Money.
Say your running the A & B Class and 22 cars show up, take the 22 cars times $100. = $2200.
I don't know if you want to pay winner & runner up or what.??? we need help in this area.

The other $60. goes towards the "Handicap Elim". money pay out. if you had 32 total classes x $60.
that comes out to $1920.

Just trying to come up with ideas on a payout system.

What'dya think Terry

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Hey Pete, looks like there's no pie left for the TRACK, don't they get a slice?
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Hey Frank

We'll throw them some beer, courtesy from " The Brew Crew " maybe some salted peanuts if there
nice to us. lol
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We'll throw them some beer, courtesy from " The Brew Crew " maybe some salted peanuts if there
nice to us. lol
OK !!!! LET THE BASH BEGIN!!!! COUNT THE BREW CREW IN!!!! TELL THEM TO BRING THEIR OWN NUTZ!!!! and maybe you could adjust the crews entry fee to offset the cost of the beer. YOU GOTTA WET DA BEAK!!!! you know the old saying everybody's got a cup , but no one is chipping in!!
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