"WHAT IF" part 4

[RJ]

Not sure if it would be an issue or not, but I am assuming these races will be held at tracks currently sanctioned by NHRA or IHRA?, and if so, are these same tracks bound in any way to not hold races put on by a competing (UCRA, AHRA, whatever this will be called ) sanctioning body?

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

What about the AHRA ("Alternative" Hot Rod Association)

IMO, if you want credibility, you need to use a serious name not a slap in the face to other organizations. I would suggest that if you want to get at the other sanctioning bodies the best way would be to take their customers.

[Trevor Weiss]

They let the Pinks Show race at tracks that are NHRA and IHRA. Pinks is not a part of either orginization.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Trevor Weiss

They let the Pinks Show race at tracks that are NHRA and IHRA. Pinks is not a part of either orginization.

Trevor, Pinks is not actually directly competing with either NHRA or IHRA, the new association would certainly be considered to be in direct competition with both.

[Robert Swartz]

Originally Posted by GUMP

IMO, if you want credibility, you need to use a serious name not a slap in the face to other organizations. I would suggest that if you want to get at the other sanctioning bodies the best way would be to take their customers.

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Trevor, Pinks is not actually directly competing with either NHRA or IHRA, the new association would certainly be considered to be in direct competition with both.

Good points by both of you. I wasn't around for the US Class Nationals. How was that handled? Wasn't it run at an NHRA or IHRA facility? Being a one time event, probably didn't raise too many eyebrows back then.

If you consider it from this angle. Many tracks run nothing but bracket racing. Back in my day, there used to be all kind of different "events", alcohol Funny Cars, Outlaw Pro Stock shows, bike drags. These were run as adjunct events to the regular shows. What makes this any different? Other than it's being planned as a stand alone event. I don't believe anyone thinks this is going to supplant the big organizations. If you race under either #HRA, I imagine you'll still run those events, won't you?

Am I reading this wrong. Isn't this mainly an attempt to bring together the various grass roots S/SS organizations that run combos now. Or more to the point, bringing back a form of racing to the mainstream that isn't as recognised as it should be.

You might not get one of the premier facilities. I'm sure there's a track out there that would be suitable for this endeavor. And wouldn't have to surrender their sanction to run the event(s).

After all this, I still like the AHRA name. What ever this ends up being called. I still think it has tremendous potential. If it never comes about, just hope there's still a combo race to run when I get my car together.

Robert Swartz

[GUMP]

Did anyone post "ACRA" (American Class Racers Association)?

[Pistol Pete]

Robert Swartz:

I did forget about the GT Stock, Crate Motor Class & The Pure Stock Classes. My Mistake.

We can add them in too, no problem. But did you get the idea that I was trying to come up with ??

Just trying to lessen the classes. Run Class run offs with less classes, like Jeff Lee said.

How 'bout the entry fee, say it's $160. for arguements sake, take $100. a car & put it towards Class Elim.
Money, the other $60. goes towards the Handicap Elim. Money.
Say your running the A & B Class and 22 cars show up, take the 22 cars times $100. = $2200.
I don't know if you want to pay winner & runner up or what.??? we need help in this area.

The other $60. goes towards the "Handicap Elim". money pay out. if you had 32 total classes x $60.
that comes out to $1920.

Just trying to come up with ideas on a payout system.

What'dya think Terry

Pistol Pete
1374 Stock

[Robert Swartz]

Originally Posted by Pistol Pete

Robert Swartz:

I did forget about the GT Stock, Crate Motor Class & The Pure Stock Classes. My Mistake.

We can add them in too, no problem. But did you get the idea that I was trying to come up with ??

Just trying to lessen the classes. Run Class run offs with less classes, like Jeff Lee said.

How 'bout the entry fee, say it's $160. for arguements sake, take $100. a car & put it towards Class Elim.
Money, the other $60. goes towards the Handicap Elim. Money.
Say your running the A & B Class and 22 cars show up, take the 22 cars times $100. = $2200.
I don't know if you want to pay winner & runner up or what.??? we need help in this area.

The other $60. goes towards the "Handicap Elim". money pay out. if you had 32 total classes x $60.
that comes out to $1920.

Just trying to come up with ideas on a payout system.

What'dya think Terry

Pistol Pete
1374 Stock

Pete,

I get your premse, regarding the lessening of the classes. I agree. I'd blend what both you and Dick Butler propose. Look at the combination of both weight breaks and indexes. Lump the various classes together using those. Go to full pound breaks, then even things out using the indexes. Like Dick Butler said, get people used to larger classes. I remember the large events in the 70's, you'd have a boatload of cars contesting class. I remember local events in the early 70's that it wasn't unusual to have run 3-4 rounds just to get into the eliminator.

It would be a little complicated but just need some homework. The guys doing the initial entry inspections would have a sheet in front of them. As the cars are teched, you'd be assigned a class based on that factoring. That way we'd keep out #HRA designation, just shoe polish your determined time. If we're allowd to dial under for the eliminator. For me that may not be a problem, early on, LOL!

Need to go earn some money today,
Robert Swartz

[Harry 6674]

Did I read in one of the early posts that the races were going to be run with a comp. style CIC? Now I read people talking about shoe polish. Which is it? If you want spectators you have to leave the shoe polish home. IMO

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Harry 6674

Did I read in one of the early posts that the races were going to be run with a comp. style CIC? Now I read people talking about shoe polish. Which is it? If you want spectators you have to leave the shoe polish home. IMO

The races with a CIC like comp was for the "Quick 32" in stock and S/S. The regular eliminators would be run as it is now in NHRA and IHRA.