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Old 02-10-2017, 05:58 PM   #201
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Exclamation Re: Important if you run D-H/S or SA

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Hi Jack,

It does appear that you have evolved......

The problem is that you evolved into Pro ET Eliminator, just like you said "It's all about getting a light and running your number ! ! !"

What ever happened to HEADS-UP in the Eliminator.....So much for "It's all about getting a light and running your number ! ! !"

What ever happened to National Records..........So much for "It's all about getting a light and running your number ! ! !"

What ever happened to Class Racing...........So much for "It's all about getting a light and running your number ! ! !"

What about qualifying......So much for "It's all about getting a light and running your number ! ! !"

I guess this is what happens when we allow the camel to get his nose under the tent flap.....

Nothing but the slippery slope is left....

You have sure come a long way from Junior Stock,
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Bob- You can flame me all you want but I'm not the enemy - only the messenger ! ! ! As for ""It's all about getting a light and running your number" - even Billy will tell you how wrong you are about me evolving .All of the things you pointed out are and have always been important to me - no exceptions .I must follow the rules just like everyone else and those close to me ( including Billy) will tell you I'll fight to the death to keep things going for Stock and S/S .That said the biggest problem we have is that there are few left in the NHRA tech dept. who can properly police these issues .Better call Dave Ley for example and see if he can clone himself.Or I'm sure I can come with a tech shirt in your size and you can be part of the solution .

PS- Pro Eliminator ?? Me ??? You sir don't know me .BTW, as for National Records I have more than a hundred and every one has memories that can't be bought.
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Old 02-10-2017, 06:02 PM   #202
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Awww Jack, you just brought a tear to my eye! But I hate to say it, it seems to me that you're trying to play both sides of the street!
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Old 02-10-2017, 06:22 PM   #203
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Awww Jack, you just brought a tear to my eye! But I hate to say it, it seems to me that you're trying to play both sides of the street!
Geez Billy ....a tear ??? Really .I'm not playing both sides of the street - just being a realist ! ! ! It's 2017 with the Donald as Mr.President - who ever thought .It can't be 1969 forever ...............
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Old 02-10-2017, 06:37 PM   #204
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Geez Billy ....a tear ??? Really .I'm not playing both sides of the street - just being a realist ! ! ! It's 2017 with the Donald as Mr.President - who ever thought .It can't be 1969 forever ...............
Jack, I don't want to have Kenny hollering at me for getting political BUT, seeings as you brought up "The Don", ya know, he is a big by-the-rules guy. And the people who wrote our rules aren't following them anymore. That is the reality of 2017 in the NHRA.
They made the rules, I'll follow their rules, THEY have to remember their rules.
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Old 02-10-2017, 07:17 PM   #205
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Quote Jack M. : That said the biggest problem we have is that there are few left in the NHRA tech dept. who can properly police these issues .Better call Dave Ley for example and see if he can clone himself.
Dave indeed is one of the most, if not most knowledgable people out there. But let's get back to reality. If he became Nat'l Tech Dir., at the nice fat compensation paid the NTD , how long do you think he'd last in the position if he bucked the biggies in Glendora. The only way the whole NHRA mess will ever be corrected is getting power back the the NHRA membership who will have the power to drain the swamp in Glendora, starting with Gracia,Dim Light (with apologies to Jack), and the upper echelon who have none nothing to improve the lot of all the racers, Pro and Sportsman, since the mid 1990's. But we all know that will never happen. Tyrants will do anything to retain power. They are probably sitting in their cushy offices rooting for the peons to continue the cat fighting, taking the focus away from the way they've dragged the sport into the mud.

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Old 02-10-2017, 07:22 PM   #206
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While we're on the transmission deal maybe all of the 340 cars should go back to their 727 torqueflites too!
Billy, this argument is kind of irrelevant, if you have the money you can purchase a 727 with 904 parts, that is no different than a turbo 350 or 400 with light weight parts. And many Chebbies use Metric 200's. Stock eliminator as we know it has not been stock eliminator for over 20 years. Either get on board or get out of the way ..
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Old 02-10-2017, 08:24 PM   #207
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Oh, but those Edelbrock heads and roller rockers without Chrysler part #'s did come on 340's?? I love purity as much as the next stock eliminator racer but that ship powered by a blown hemi with a powerglide and a 9" sailed long ago!
I have not defended those things, either.

So what is the point of Stock Eliminator? You can't even call it "Factory-Appearing Eliminator" anymore. It's a farce. Apparently people are content to fiddle on the deck. Sad.
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Old 02-10-2017, 08:28 PM   #208
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Billy, this argument is kind of irrelevant, if you have the money you can purchase a 727 with 904 parts, that is no different than a turbo 350 or 400 with light weight parts. And many Chebbies use Metric 200's. Stock eliminator as we know it has not been stock eliminator for over 20 years. Either get on board or get out of the way ..

Hi,

As you pointed out, the transmission "revision" to the rules benefits almost all of Stock Eliminator.....

It looks like the manifold deal only benefits 1 combination...

My point is that NHRA can't leave it alone......

Think back 20 or 30 years and the rules would stay the same for years and now there is a new rule every week.....

I understand change, but change just for the sake of change makes no sense....

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Erik, are you posing that question out of curiosity, or as a precursor to a line of ridicule? I would hope that any member of this forum would receive an equal level of respect, regardless of the numbers on his time slip.
It was just a question.... plain and simple.
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So I guess everybody thinks the current lot in Glendora will find the magic bullet?
Pretty sad state of affairs.
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