I just noticed the entries for the national event

[jmcarter]

Originally Posted by Dan Fletcher

Perhaps Mr. Finch and Mr. Reese will be at Vegas...

I like that one Dan, but perhaps certain racers only follow shows like Big Brother and Survivor for their role models and didn't get your reference. I'd like to think everyone is staying within the rules, but then I maintained that Lance didn't dope right up until he finally admitted it so what do I know.

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Herb...

1. as piedmont's track manager, your post doesn't say much about your professionalism and calls into question what should be your unbiased decision making should an issue arise between pairings, the ladder, bye runs, etc.

Herb is not Piedmont's track manager, and has not been for years.

3. I'm a bracket racer, not a grudge racer. We don't race best of anything, we race each round to eliminate except in North Carolina where there is no tech inspection and where you can buyback until you run out of $ and if you're "lucky" enough to hold the "mulligan" that's drawn, they'll put you back in the race late in the rounds.

Loose Rocker Promotions has never had a Mulligan at any of our events, and we utilize only one round of buybacks at our bracket races, run re-entry style. As far as tech, while we've never done a complete tear down of a car, at our $20K Footbrake events, I have personally checked out nearly every car in competition to some extent, plus we have knowledgeable starters who watch for anything out of the ordinary.

4. my comment about beard's bad day was to show he's human too as beard never misses and opportunity to tell everyone how good he is even in this thread about alleged NHRA inspections for cheating in super stock, stating his every round reaction times of his good weekend.

As explained previously, citing actual data of a car/driver that is demonstrably not cheating is the easiest way to refute a claim that people are cheating because someone doesn't believe it's statistically possible. Good lord...! SORRY I even posted anything.

5. I have supported beard's thanksgiving race in the past as well yours and had every intention of supporting it again this year with a double entry, being that it's back at piedmont which is a far better facility than that dump known as cpd, but based on your comments above, and questionable unbiased decision making skills as the manager, I'll pass and I'll be sure to let my friends know who were on the fence why I am not going.

See (1.) above. Additionally, decisions made at Loose Rocker events are made solely by either myself or Anthony Walton, and done so as fairly as possible, made based on the circumstances, and not the driver(s) involved. Why would you bad-mouth our event based on someone who has no association with neither the event nor the facility?

7. that all said, why make this about beard

Good idea. We've never had an issue with each other that I'm aware of, and there's no need to start one now.

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by Dan Fletcher

And I'd like to further suggest that in addition to the random drug testing program, perhaps NHRA should consider instituting some form of mental health screening as a condition of participation...

I am out numbered by a cranky wife and a graduating high school daughter so that would rule me out.

Dan

[Tom Nolan]

NHRA has a responsibility to check all cars for electronic driving aids!

[Sam Capizzi Jr]

Originally Posted by Tom Nolan

Bring it on....NHRA has a responsibility to check all cars for electronic driving aids! I don't know how NHRA hasn't started checking S & SS years ago, if there has been cheating the guilty party would be finished! Fellow racers would black list them for stealing!!!!
Everyone here agrees that some racers are just plain better than others. However I know the odds of winning a national event is slim......but winning 4-5 a year or more.... the odds are incredible! I'm sure there are some readers here that can calculate the odds?
My point is just like a random tear down, fuel check, and weigh scale, pull a few over and trace the transbrake or two step, check for delay, keep everyone honest?
Check, verify, level playing field for all.....give piece of mind. Tom Nolan

So what your saying is that the odds are incredible that one of the best bottom bulb racers in the world can win 10% of the national events he is entered at???

[1320racer]

Michael, I have no issue with you except to say lighten up a little.

Further, I wasn't aware of any issue between herb and I, having only met/talked to him once years ago at piedmont but apparently, he has issue with some of my online opinions and comments. That's ok, don't bother me, I sleep well at night but if he wants to issue a challenge, YOU need to tell him to speak for himself unless he's your pr guy.

Next, I was not aware that he is no longer piedmont's manager as he still goes by "Piedmontdragwaymanager" on other websites.

Lastly, I have not bad mouthed your event, only stated the facts and the truth about tech as well the former facility that hosted this event. For the record, NO ONE has ever "checked out" my car(s) as it relates to safety or legality or any of my friend's cars at your event or herb's. I have personally witnessed numerous safety issues with car and driver including one of the local hero's there start his car and lunge forward because it did not have a neutral safety switch. Where there is smoke, there is fire and when everyone knows no one is checking cars, the temptation for some not to play fairly might be more than they can withstand.

One north carolina racer told me years ago that they can't tech cars here in nc because if they did, more than half the cars wouldn't be legal to race.

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by Tom Nolan

Bring it on....NHRA has a responsibility to check all cars for electronic driving aids! I don't know how NHRA hasn't started checking S & SS years ago, if there has been cheating the guilty party would be finished! Fellow racers would black list them for stealing!!!!
Everyone here agrees that some racers are just plain better than others. However I know the odds of winning a national event is slim......but winning 4-5 a year or more.... the odds are incredible! I'm sure there are some readers here that can calculate the odds?
My point is just like a random tear down, fuel check, and weigh scale, pull a few over and trace the transbrake or two step, check for delay, keep everyone honest?
Check, verify, level playing field for all.....give piece of mind. Tom Nolan

So are you saying the ones that are winning 4 or 5 a year must be cheating?

[Randall Klein]

".....best bottom bulb racer(s)...."

We need to get our focus off the tree. Electronics or blinder or plain good of a full tree, one needs to get under .020 which is attainable for most. The resource the full time racers have is at the top end, usually playing with .02 in the bank, and with way more seat time some have perfected taking the stripe or giving it up. That is where the playas cash in

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Lastly, I have not bad mouthed your event

You just got done saying:

but based on your (Herb's) comments above, and questionable unbiased decision making skills as the manager, I'll pass and I'll be sure to let my friends know who were on the fence why I am not going.

For the record, NO ONE has ever "checked out" my car(s) as it relates to safety or legality or any of my friend's cars at your event or herb's.

Actually, I went trailer-to-trailer on the first day of the event each year, and typically got to 90% or more of the cars. I discussed seat belts, valve stems, throttle return springs, battery hold-downs, ground wires on fuel cells, etc with a number of drivers. I spent time studying and talking with you about your car at the Jim Harrington race. When people brought other issues to my attention, they were investigated. I cannot speak for events run by other promoters.

That's enough hijacking of this thread. Any more off-topic discussion can take place under the proper existing threads, under a new thread if need be, or via private message.

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

I spent time studying and talking with you about your car at the Jim Harrington race.

Michael, you must have me and my car(s) confused with someone else as I have never spoken to you face to face until your 2011 thanksgiving weekend event at cpd but you may have spent time "studying" my car(s) as many do, impressed by it's performance and perfection.