Most Significant "Stocker" Technology - Page 3

oldskool · 06-11-2019, 07:54 PM

Many of the things mentioned here have made many of the old Musclecars 2 seconds quicker than when I first raced Stock.

For the engine, the unlimited cam duration & spring pressures have obviously allowed much higher rpm & hp. The approved forged pistons & rods, & even aftermarket blocks, have allowed many engine combos to run 8000 rpm plus, & live. Don't know how many of the longer stroke engines could do that back in the old days.

The lighter legal auto trans have also lowered ET's some.

I also agree that the Cal Trac type bars have made the leaf spring cars quicker. Many of the 10 sec Stockers now need wheelie bars to help control the launch. So, when you know you're hooked to the track, you can then obviously make other changes that will lower ET.

I'm obviously no expert. These are just casual observations, comparing what I saw in the '70's, to what I see today.

Steve Stasko · 06-11-2019, 08:22 PM

Somebody forgot to tell Gene Jordan and Joe Santangelo that they need Cal-Tracs...

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCP...r2019#indextop

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCP...r2019#indextop

oldskool · 06-11-2019, 09:06 PM

Yeah, some guys can run quick without traction bars or soft compound tires.

https://www.fastdrags.com/

BILL TAYLOR · 06-11-2019, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

OK, it's the 21ST century. Stockers are never going to be seeing 7" tires and "stock" valve spring rules ever again.
What do youze guyz (sorry, I spent the weekend at Numidia) tink are the most significant and important technological advances driving Stock Eliminator into the future?
Please no whining, we're just talkin' here.
I'm thinking that the ability to gather data on a run has to be up there. So, Data logging.

Billy, Not new technology but new to Stock a few years back, I really love my ROLLER ROCKERS!!!!!

Duane Eiskant II · 06-11-2019, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Stasko

Somebody forgot to tell Gene Jordan and Joe Santangelo that they need Cal-Tracs...

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCP...r2019#indextop

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCP...r2019#indextop

Ironically both cars were originally owned and set up by Kenny Koonce.

Rich Biebel · 06-11-2019, 09:46 PM

A Stocker of today is really more like a Super Stocker on 9” tires.
More power and rpm than your average SS’er of the past

A real fast SS/JA which was a very popular class 40 years ago went 11.0’s with a roller cam and any intake and big tires. Firestone’s 12.2 x 31.25’s

The same car today running G/SA can go in the 10’s ! With a stock lift solid cam and stock intake !

‘69 Camaro 350/255....

The list of legally allowed parts is a mile long.....

06-11-2019, 07:54 PM	#21
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Most Significant "Stocker" Technology Many of the things mentioned here have made many of the old Musclecars 2 seconds quicker than when I first raced Stock. For the engine, the unlimited cam duration & spring pressures have obviously allowed much higher rpm & hp. The approved forged pistons & rods, & even aftermarket blocks, have allowed many engine combos to run 8000 rpm plus, & live. Don't know how many of the longer stroke engines could do that back in the old days. The lighter legal auto trans have also lowered ET's some. I also agree that the Cal Trac type bars have made the leaf spring cars quicker. Many of the 10 sec Stockers now need wheelie bars to help control the launch. So, when you know you're hooked to the track, you can then obviously make other changes that will lower ET. I'm obviously no expert. These are just casual observations, comparing what I saw in the '70's, to what I see today.

06-11-2019, 08:22 PM	#22
Steve Stasko Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Western PA Posts: 455 Likes: 13 Liked 274 Times in 143 Posts	Re: Most Significant "Stocker" Technology Somebody forgot to tell Gene Jordan and Joe Santangelo that they need Cal-Tracs... https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCP...r2019#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCP...r2019#indextop

06-11-2019, 09:06 PM	#23
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Most Significant "Stocker" Technology Yeah, some guys can run quick without traction bars or soft compound tires. https://www.fastdrags.com/

06-11-2019, 09:46 PM	#26
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,314 Likes: 25 Liked 544 Times in 213 Posts	Re: Most Significant "Stocker" Technology A Stocker of today is really more like a Super Stocker on 9” tires. More power and rpm than your average SS’er of the past A real fast SS/JA which was a very popular class 40 years ago went 11.0’s with a roller cam and any intake and big tires. Firestone’s 12.2 x 31.25’s The same car today running G/SA can go in the 10’s ! With a stock lift solid cam and stock intake ! ‘69 Camaro 350/255.... The list of legally allowed parts is a mile long..... __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R