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[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by bsa633

He should have been able too avoid that..either he did not fully understood this "system" or maybe he just didn't care...by the way..FORD's get's screwed by NHRA???..myself i always thought they got almost everything asked for..

Recognizing you are Chevy fan, let's be level headed here. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that the Pontiac is the fastest GT/AA at Vegas and Pomona. Runs faster than the Ford. Wins class and the shoot-out. However, the Ford gets the HP and the Chevy does not get any HP. It is clear there is something wrong.

[bsa633]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

Recognizing you are Chevy fan, let's be level headed here. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that the Pontiac is the fastest GT/AA at Vegas and Pomona. Runs faster than the Ford. Wins class and the shoot-out. However, the Ford gets the HP and the Chevy does not get any HP. It is clear there is something wrong.

No..not really anything like that...just pointed out that this was his own "doing" ..but i commend all people that still run thier cars all out despite a good chance of being hit and get other racers rage....if everyone did..this "system" would probably work a little better than it is now...but still long from perfect because cars/combo's with small counts would still be at disadvantage if they go fast..look at the 427 Chevy's in Stock...been at the top of the class for more than 10 years and never got hit once still i belive..gotta be that the averge are keept down by all those cars running!

[Joe DeMarzo]

Mickey, yes sir, that is what you get for working on your combo and running it hard. Some other combo's got zippo, go and figure.

[bill dedman]

RE: 427 Chevy's in Stock...been at the top of the class for more than 10 years and never got hit once."

How can you say they are at the "top of the class" when the 426 Hemi in Ronnie West's GTX (previously in Fred Henson's '70 Challenger) and the paper cars ('67 Shelby single 4bbl GT 500s) display e.t.capabilities somewhat beyond what any of the 427 Cheys can run? John Cooper's '66 427 medium-riser Fairlane has also shown to be quicker, by holding the A/SA record for long periods, I believe.

I think the 396 aluminum head motor may even be faster in A/SA than a 427. at this point, although they just got hit with a little HP last month. Time will tell...

The 427 Rat is a great engine for A/SA, but not quite the fastest, in my opinion...

Bill

[bsa633]

Originally Posted by bill dedman

The 427 Rat is a great engine for A/SA, but not quite the fastest, in my opinion...
Bill

Ever heard about Bobby DeArmond and Joe Sorensen? rest my case..

p.s. its sad that the system took Hemi-Cuda's and Challengers out of contention..

[greg fulk]

The 73-81 dish piston 350 got hit again too it's @ 287 now up from 283! 2 years ago it was @ 275! & had been for quite some time

[PJ305]

Originally Posted by greg fulk

The 73-81 dish piston 350 got hit again too it's @ 287 now up from 283! 2 years ago it was @ 275! & had been for quite some time

Greg,

Did the 73-80 Corvette get HP? I can't get the class guide to open.

Thanks

[bill dedman]

>>>>>Ever heard about Bobby DeArmond and Joe Sorensen?
rest my case..<<<<<

Yes, I've heard of them but have never seen either of them outrun any of the three cars I mentioned.

Have you?

I don't believe they can, under normal conditions.

Neither of them seems to want to show up at Indy...

Some cold cases are worth re-opening....

Just my 2-cents...

Bill
PS Not to worry; the Hemi lives on in the GTX... and, I completely overlooked the awful-awful Stage III Wedge of John Shaul... How stupid of me.

The amazing thing is, ALL those other cars have multiple carburetion... but, the Chevy gets it done with one four barrell....

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by bsa633

Ever heard about Bobby DeArmond and Joe Sorensen? rest my case..

p.s. its sad that the system took Hemi-Cuda's and Challengers out of contention..

Damned right I have. Bobby has had his car, and the same combination, for as long or longer than I've had my wife, and we've been married 22 years. Super nice guy. Ask his engine builder, Gary McGlasson, they've got more money in cams and headers that don't work laying around than most people have in a decent car. I can't remember how long Joe and Hal have had that nasty little green car.

We're two tenths slower than Bobby, or Joe and Hal. We're getting there. And we're considered to have a pretty decent 427 car. Most everyone else is two tenths or more slower than either Bobby or Joe and Hal. That's why the average for the car and engine does not get hit. The same engine is in the 66 Corvette, the 69 Chevelle, and the 66-69 Impala. All of that keeps the average down.

Now that we have the AA class, the Hemi isn't out of anything. Besides, I guess you've never seen Barton run, and let's not forget Shaul and the other non Hemi Chryslers. Further, word has it when Henson ran that high 9.80, the car already weighed about what it had to after he got the HP the next Tuesday.

I won't bring up much on the Fords, there's been enough bandwidth spent on them to start another Internet. Let's just say they're no less underfactored than any of the 427 or 396 Chevies.

[bsa633]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Now that we have the AA class, the Hemi isn't out of anything. Besides, I guess you've never seen Barton run, and let's not forget Shaul and the other non Hemi Chryslers. Further, word has it when Henson ran that high 9.80, the car already weighed about what it had to after he got the HP the next Tuesday.
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Have you seen alot of Hemi-Cuda's or Challengers latley??those were the cars i was talking about if you read my post.. I doubt anyone seriously will try to "get in the match" as long they have a 457 hp factor..looks dead to me!!