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[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by fredjohnston

I think IHRA would get alot more cars if the rules were enforced and they didn't have a class for everything, including your lawmower!. Get rid of the SPZ2-23A WTF classes!.

Just as I said.....Its mentality such as this is what Im talking about.. Those SS/Production classes are left over from the AHRA days and when IHRA was first formed. It included BOTH the NHRA and AHRA classes. Not much different than the SS/AS, or SS/CM, etc. that we see in NHRA S/S today. Over 3/4 of those classes no longer exist over the last several years. I worked for them for 22 years and never saw a lawn mower in eliminations yet. Or are you talking about fuel funny cars?

[fredjohnston]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Just as I said.....Its mentality such as this is what Im talking about.. Those SS/Production classes are left over from the AHRA days and when IHRA was first formed. It included BOTH the NHRA and AHRA classes. Not much different than the SS/AS, or SS/CM, etc. that we see in NHRA S/S today. Over 3/4 of those classes no longer exist over the last several years. I worked for them for 22 years and never saw a lawn mower in eliminations yet. Or are you talking about fuel funny cars?

If IHRA closer aligns the classes with NHRA you get a larger number of cars crossing over. IHRA should get rid of the various 2 bbl production classes and move them similar to NHRA, SS/AM, SS/CM, SS/BS, SS/CS, etc. Move the crate motor and stock "gt" classes from Stock to Superstock. Stock eliminator should go back to where the engine needs to match the car/body style and vehicle year claimed. Sorry, but no NHRA stock or superstock racer wants Joe weekly bracket racer showing up with his bracket car and running an IHRA national event in stock or superstock, which currently they can do. Again, align the IHRA classes with the NHRA classes and you will get the cross over traffic. I know.

[Tracy Robbins]

Originally Posted by fredjohnston

If IHRA closer aligns the classes with NHRA you get a larger number of cars crossing over. IHRA should get rid of the various 2 bbl production classes and move them similar to NHRA, SS/AM, SS/CM, SS/BS, SS/CS, etc. Move the crate motor and stock "gt" classes from Stock to Superstock. Stock eliminator should go back to where the engine needs to match the car/body style and vehicle year claimed. Sorry, but no NHRA stock or superstock racer wants Joe weekly bracket racer showing up with his bracket car and running an IHRA national event in stock or superstock, which currently they can do. Again, align the IHRA classes with the NHRA classes and you will get the cross over traffic. I know.

Why penalize the racers that have supported them for the last 30 years just because a few people that never support IHRA say you will get more cars if you kill some classes to be more like NHRA. On one side you bitch about NHRA then on the other you ask IHRA to change to be like them...doesn't make sense! Look at the other classes NHRA has added after IHRA built them up, top sportsman, top dragster, top stock, pro mod are the ones that come to mind, they must be doing something right. By the way, if you couldn't tell, I race in one of those production classes and my car is far from weekly bracket racer. (Not knocking bracket racers we just have rules to conform to) The real racers like the Worners, Fletcher, Bertozzi...they don't seem to have a problem racing against the diversity of classes in IHRA, they just show up and race rather than finding excuses not to!

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Tracy Robbins

Why penalize the racers that have supported them for the last 30 years just because a few people that never support IHRA say you will get more cars if you kill some classes to be more like NHRA. On one side you bitch about NHRA then on the other you ask IHRA to change to be like them...doesn't make sense! Look at the other classes NHRA has added after IHRA built them up, top sportsman, top dragster, top stock, pro mod are the ones that come to mind, they must be doing something right. By the way, if you couldn't tell, I race in one of those production classes and my car is far from weekly bracket racer. (Not knocking bracket racers we just have rules to conform to) The real racers like the Worners, Fletcher, Bertozzi...they don't seem to have a problem racing against the diversity of classes in IHRA, they just show up and race rather than finding excuses not to!

Yeah......what you said Tracy !

[Dave Goob Cook]

X3

I see NHRA class cars being bracket raced fairly frequently, what is your beef with bracket racers?
Skeeeeered???
Must be.

[Dwight Southerland]

Originally Posted by Tracy Robbins

The real racers . . . they don't seem to have a problem racing against the diversity of classes in IHRA, they just show up and race rather than finding excuses not to!

Amen. I've raced it all - NHRA, IHRA, AHRA, NDRA, 1/4 mile, 1/8 mile, 1000 ft., staged tree, pro tree, flagman. All kinds of rules - no breakout, 1/10 second breakout, dial your own, nat'l records. You put the car on the line and race to the other end. A winner is a winner, and a loser is a loser. A 10.70 is a 10.70 whether it is a half second over or a second under. Being treated with respect and decency goes a long way.

[Bryan Worner]

Originally Posted by fredjohnston

If IHRA closer aligns the classes with NHRA you get a larger number of cars crossing over. IHRA should get rid of the various 2 bbl production classes and move them similar to NHRA, SS/AM, SS/CM, SS/BS, SS/CS, etc. Move the crate motor and stock "gt" classes from Stock to Superstock. Stock eliminator should go back to where the engine needs to match the car/body style and vehicle year claimed. Sorry, but no NHRA stock or superstock racer wants Joe weekly bracket racer showing up with his bracket car and running an IHRA national event in stock or superstock, which currently they can do. Again, align the IHRA classes with the NHRA classes and you will get the cross over traffic. I know.

Who cares what class car is in the other lane? If it's legal for that class in IHRA then deal with it! If you let things like this bother you when you decide to go to a race, or not go to a race, then you're already beaten before you get there!

How many NHRA Super Stockers are going to be pissed and complaining when the imports start running in 09??? I'm licking my chops!!!

[tpoh815]

Ed I love how soon you come up with racer stats . Bryan I love your attitude, after all its still bracket racing until a heads up. Then again you two guys dont have anything to worry about there either. We love to see you guys come over to IHRA. As I recall you both have great track records (no pun there). Hope to see you guys next year.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by tpoh815

Ed I love how soon you come up with racer stats . Bryan I love your attitude, after all its still bracket racing until a heads up. Then again you two guys dont have anything to worry about there either. We love to see you guys come over to IHRA. As I recall you both have great track records (no pun there). Hope to see you guys next year.

Hope to see y'all next year.Oh jees,now i'm starting to talk like Beard.

Ed