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Old 11-23-2008, 10:31 AM   #1
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Same deal as the white B/S 427 Fairlane STATION WAGON running the fiber glass scooped hood. They only came on 2 dr. sedans and 2dr. hard tops with 2 X 4's originally but they look cool so who cares.....lol.
the hood was an over the counter option, that was available for any 427 Fairlane, whether it was a 2dr sedan, hardtop or a wagon!!


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Old 11-23-2008, 11:18 AM   #2
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This thread just reminded me of a funny "Billy" story. At least a good 20 years ago I was at a points meet with my 6 cyl. stocker (V/SA) and was suprised to see the then record holder in my class there. Well, this fellow was (is) a rather famous (infamous) kind of guy with some very good ties to some manufacturers and I can't help but notice that his car (same class as mine) is a beautiful Buick GN. The only problem is that he's not running a turbo motor but a 2V 231 V/6. To make matters worse, at the end of qualifing I realize that I have to race him 1st round, heads up. I went to my Division Tech Director and ask him what kind of car and combo this fellow is racing and he tells me that it's obviously a turbo GN to which I reply "in V/SA"? My DTD goes over to the fellow and asks him to open his hood to find a carbureted V/6. Well the DTD tells the man that he's not legal and he's DQed. The man tells the DTD that the GN body kit and the hood are "Stand Alone" options on any Regal and he will have him sent the paperwork on Monday morning. The DTD let him race (cleaned my clock easily) and that was that. The following week I get sent a copy of a "corporate memo" stating just what the fellow had said that the GN body work and hood were "Stand Alone" options that could be had on any Regal. To make a long story short, a friend of mine wound up buying the car and with the paperwork that came with it was what came to be known as the "Billy" letter and a cover letter to my DTD complaining about the way that he was "abused" by me. Imagine that, me abusing somebody! You can put your own moral on this story.
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Old 11-23-2008, 11:28 AM   #3
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The further away from 'stock' that these cars are allowed to get.....the closer they are to where NHRA wants you to eventually end up. You might want to keep in mind that NHRA thought Billy Meyer had the right idea 'way back as regards the Sportsman racer.

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Old 11-24-2008, 09:35 AM   #4
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Imagine that, me abusing somebody! You can put your own moral on this story.
MORAL: "The safest way to argue with Billy is through the mail."

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Old 11-24-2008, 10:45 AM   #5
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Note a SS 85 Camaro is not legal with an 82 hood and a 85 motor in a SS class. It is legal as an 82 car in GT but that would mean a harder index.
The BIG question NHRA will not address fairly is the decision to stop the 71 454 Vette from using the cold Air hood. That part is not a problem if ALL cars are policed but how could they LEAVE the HP the same at 475 when the motor in a camaro is 435? GT. Comment I got was it might become a dominant combination. HUH?

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Old 11-24-2008, 03:00 PM   #6
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Dick,
That's another problem I have with NHRA why is a hood change leagle in a "GT" car when they run Super Stock as well??? If you couldn't get it from the factroy (as installed, not parts in the trunk) it shouldn't be allowed in S/SS classes.
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Old 11-24-2008, 04:05 PM   #7
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Z my point was that if someone wants to run an 82 hood on a Camaro then it is called an 82 with an 85 motor and competes in GT since the rules changes to both ways on motor/chassis combination. The car I am talking about was using the light hood and calling the car an 85 SS class car to take advantage of the slower index of SS/KA AND the light hood.
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Way too many classes.Lots of them are used to keep from running a class where you know you cannot win in case of a heads up.I know this to be a fact, . Lots of the racers wait til last minute to see who is running what class. I go through this at tech at every event. Always some one wanting to know if so and so is running this or that . Sorry ,that's a whole new subject ../See ya at the races ///
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Old 11-25-2008, 10:13 AM   #9
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This thread just reminded me of a funny "Billy" story. At least a good 20 years ago I was at a points meet with my 6 cyl. stocker (V/SA) and was suprised to see the then record holder in my class there. Well, this fellow was (is) a rather famous (infamous) kind of guy with some very good ties to some manufacturers and I can't help but notice that his car (same class as mine) is a beautiful Buick GN. The only problem is that he's not running a turbo motor but a 2V 231 V/6. To make matters worse, at the end of qualifing I realize that I have to race him 1st round, heads up. I went to my Division Tech Director and ask him what kind of car and combo this fellow is racing and he tells me that it's obviously a turbo GN to which I reply "in V/SA"? My DTD goes over to the fellow and asks him to open his hood to find a carbureted V/6. Well the DTD tells the man that he's not legal and he's DQed. The man tells the DTD that the GN body kit and the hood are "Stand Alone" options on any Regal and he will have him sent the paperwork on Monday morning. The DTD let him race (cleaned my clock easily) and that was that. The following week I get sent a copy of a "corporate memo" stating just what the fellow had said that the GN body work and hood were "Stand Alone" options that could be had on any Regal. To make a long story short, a friend of mine wound up buying the car and with the paperwork that came with it was what came to be known as the "Billy" letter and a cover letter to my DTD complaining about the way that he was "abused" by me. Imagine that, me abusing somebody! You can put your own moral on this story.

That reminds me of the GMC Syclones and the non-turbo 2wd Sonoma GT twins.

http://www.sytyarchives.com/faq/gthistory/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonoma_GT
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Old 11-23-2008, 11:32 AM   #10
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So was the crossram 2X4 setup for the Z28's. Not sure that one would make 'er through tech, though.

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