What would you do if the NHRA banned timers in .90 (Super) class racing?

cicero819 · 10-15-2008, 11:12 PM

Unfortunately, NHRA would never take away, any electronics for fear that they would kill the goose that laid the golden egg. I once enjoyed Super Gas or Super Comp but hate to try to explain to a young novice spectator why did the car stall and all of a sudden pick up again. Last week-end at the Virginia National I enjoyed watching a competitor in Super Comp going 218 mph with his alcohol supercharged big block, he would gently leave the starting line sit for about 4.5 second dead in the water and then all of a sudden take off like a bat out of hell! Racer who race in super comp should be worried about how fan have no interest in their cars, I know I would. Look how stock has brought new fans with their super competitive time (wheel stand doesn't hurt either) the different body styles and so on. Nobody want's to see or pay to watch dragster that could be operated by Nintendo teenagers from the stand. NHRA better wake up, I can remember talking with Steve Cohen at Sanair during his Championship year all he had was a reaction timer and a simple bolt limiting the throttle. Claude Ruel L1108stk

chebby2 · 10-15-2008, 11:28 PM

Can you explain to a novice why one car leaves before the other. No one watches any sportsman class , get use to it.

Barney B · 10-16-2008, 04:46 AM

I try and stay away from these topics........but.........
*I like things just the way they are, I do not feel it has anything to do with spectators. I do not feel NHRA will ban timers either. I enjoy explaining how the throttle stops work and the purpose of them. People I explain it to thinks it's cool to have all that technology in our sport. The neve new it was that complex.
I feel lucky and thank God every day just for letting me still be able to do what I enjoy doing! I have always believed that if you don't like the play ground you are playing in find another one. If you can't, quit playing. For those who do not know me I race a 167mph (tops) super comp dragster and bracket race. Do I want to go faster? Hell yes, but I race within my means and have a "Blast" doing it.
Sorry to carry on like this, this is just my opinion and it's 4:30am and felt like doing it

BB

* Disclaimer; I am in no way to be held responsible for this post, it is for entertainment purposes only

Bob Verwold · 10-16-2008, 07:47 AM

Well said BB, even if it was 4:30am.................

10-17-2008, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by cicero819

Unfortunately, NHRA would never take away, any electronics for fear that they would kill the goose that laid the golden egg. I once enjoyed Super Gas or Super Comp but hate to try to explain to a young novice spectator why did the car stall and all of a sudden pick up again. Last week-end at the Virginia National I enjoyed watching a competitor in Super Comp going 218 mph with his alcohol supercharged big block, he would gently leave the starting line sit for about 4.5 second dead in the water and then all of a sudden take off like a bat out of hell! Racer who race in super comp should be worried about how fan have no interest in their cars, I know I would. Look how stock has brought new fans with their super competitive time (wheel stand doesn't hurt either) the different body styles and so on. Nobody want's to see or pay to watch dragster that could be operated by Nintendo teenagers from the stand. NHRA better wake up, I can remember talking with Steve Cohen at Sanair during his Championship year all he had was a reaction timer and a simple bolt limiting the throttle. Claude Ruel L1108stk

They don't care about any goose. No goose ever laid an egg that was golden anyway.

Why do you hate to explain something to someone. Let me guess, you don't understand it, can't afford it, or you are being lazy. Let's take a poll.

I ran the 218 mph car at a race, very fun. He had me by 48 mph at the finish line but I got there first.

I see the same amount of spectators in the stands in both classes so you stockers should be worried, not us. We have twice as many competitors in our classes normally also. Besides we are nearly twice as fast ( 218 fastest vs. 120 - not even close ).

Lou SG2340 · 10-17-2008, 04:56 AM

A friend of mine does not like super class racing. He feels NHRA should have a heads up door class based on weight to cubic inches. First one to take the stripe wins.
I told him NHRA has this class. It's called Pro Stock. He didn't like my answer.

T Hall · 10-17-2008, 06:20 AM

Stocker guys make NHRA employees HAVE TO WORK!
Plus all the crying and accusing each other of CHEATING all the time,

Freddie · 10-17-2008, 06:57 AM

I personally have not done alot of super class racing, but I have helped a few friends with thiers. I have learned alot about how all the timers, stops, and everything else you need to accuratly predict that perfect run, and its alot of fun. I also enjoy Super Stock racing, it takes alot to make a car run far enough under the index to even think about getting competetive. Thats why lately I have been just bracket racing, kinda sneeking up on my combination. I am planning on racing a few Super Street events next year, and still enjoy watching the Super Gas/Comp cars maybe soon I will get mine to go a little faster and step up.

Locally alot of our racing seems to be going to heads up index racing, its ok, but with the breakout rule, its just like running any of the super classes without electronics.

I dont think you will see NHRA do away with any electronics at this point, they had a chance several years ago and didnt. There is too much revenue, and sponsor $$$ to NHRA for the sportsman racer from these companies, and NHRA is all about the $$$.

Michael Pliska · 10-17-2008, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Freddie

I dont think you will see NHRA do away with any electronics at this point, they had a chance several years ago and didnt. There is too much revenue, and sponsor $$$ to NHRA for the sportsman racer from these companies, and NHRA is all about the $$$.

This is the part that always puzzled me, after they swiftly banned stutter boxes back in the late 80's. Back then I was told by an NHRA official that they did not like the boxes because they made it appear that the car was broken, and that they did not want the super classes to become dominated by high-dollar big inch engines in the quest for the highest mph. Has anyone heard another reason for the stutter box ban?

Regards,

CBS · 10-17-2008, 10:40 AM

everybody has their opinion on things.....but what is the issue with the timer.....is it because they make guys that really don't have a chance to win competitive.....or is it because it allows guys that can afford some horsepower to go faster than they do....what is the issue...it looks to me like the guys that don't like them are the guys not racing much (outside of Bill Jackson...and he's old school and would be competitive either way)...and somehow the outlawing of timers would allow them to race...

why are we talking about this...go race NMRA or NMCA and race the 10 cars for the title....

CBS

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View Poll Results: What would you do if the NHRA banned timers in .90 (Super) class racing?
I'd like it and keep racing the current .90 classes. My car isn't high mph anyway.	34	47.89%
I'd like it and keep racing the current .90 classes. I'd sell my 632" and pay off my mortgage.	1	1.41%
I'd grudgingly accept it and race my 160 mph S/ST car in S/C.	0	0%
Do you know how much I spent on this dry sump 632? I'm going Top Sportsman racing!	4	5.63%
I'd hunt down the bastard who proposed it and beat him with the dry sump off of my spare 632.	32	45.07%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 71. You may not vote on this poll

10-15-2008, 11:12 PM	#1
cicero819 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Aylmer Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,086 Likes: 31 Liked 69 Times in 30 Posts	Re: What would you do if the NHRA banned timers in .90 (Super) class racing? Unfortunately, NHRA would never take away, any electronics for fear that they would kill the goose that laid the golden egg. I once enjoyed Super Gas or Super Comp but hate to try to explain to a young novice spectator why did the car stall and all of a sudden pick up again. Last week-end at the Virginia National I enjoyed watching a competitor in Super Comp going 218 mph with his alcohol supercharged big block, he would gently leave the starting line sit for about 4.5 second dead in the water and then all of a sudden take off like a bat out of hell! Racer who race in super comp should be worried about how fan have no interest in their cars, I know I would. Look how stock has brought new fans with their super competitive time (wheel stand doesn't hurt either) the different body styles and so on. Nobody want's to see or pay to watch dragster that could be operated by Nintendo teenagers from the stand. NHRA better wake up, I can remember talking with Steve Cohen at Sanair during his Championship year all he had was a reaction timer and a simple bolt limiting the throttle. Claude Ruel L1108stk

10-15-2008, 11:28 PM	#2
chebby2 Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 256 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What would you do if the NHRA banned timers in .90 (Super) class racing? Can you explain to a novice why one car leaves before the other. No one watches any sportsman class , get use to it.

10-16-2008, 04:46 AM	#3
Barney B Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Wadsworth, Ohio Posts: 510 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What would you do if the NHRA banned timers in .90 (Super) class racing? I try and stay away from these topics........but......... I like things just the way they are, I do not feel it has anything to do with spectators. I do not feel NHRA will ban timers either. I enjoy explaining how the throttle stops work and the purpose of them. People I explain it to thinks it's cool to have all that technology in our sport. The neve new it was that complex. I feel lucky and thank God every day just for letting me still be able to do what I enjoy doing! I have always believed that if you don't like the play ground you are playing in find another one. If you can't, quit playing. For those who do not know me I race a 167mph (tops) super comp dragster and bracket race. Do I want to go faster? Hell yes, but I race within my means and have a "Blast" doing it. Sorry to carry on like this, this is just my opinion and it's 4:30am and felt like doing it BB Disclaimer; I am in no way to be held responsible for this post, it is for entertainment purposes only

10-16-2008, 07:47 AM	#4
Bob Verwold Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Fayetteville Ohio Posts: 656 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What would you do if the NHRA banned timers in .90 (Super) class racing? Well said BB, even if it was 4:30am.................

10-17-2008, 04:56 AM	#6
Lou SG2340 Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Disputanta Va (30 minutes from VMP) Posts: 122 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What would you do if the NHRA banned timers in .90 (Super) class racing? A friend of mine does not like super class racing. He feels NHRA should have a heads up door class based on weight to cubic inches. First one to take the stripe wins. I told him NHRA has this class. It's called Pro Stock. He didn't like my answer.

10-17-2008, 06:20 AM	#7
T Hall Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus,Ohio Posts: 390 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What would you do if the NHRA banned timers in .90 (Super) class racing? Stocker guys make NHRA employees HAVE TO WORK! Plus all the crying and accusing each other of CHEATING all the time, __________________ Tony Hall 3545 S/ST

10-17-2008, 06:57 AM	#8
Freddie Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tampa Fla / Anderson SC Posts: 334 Likes: 12 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: What would you do if the NHRA banned timers in .90 (Super) class racing? I personally have not done alot of super class racing, but I have helped a few friends with thiers. I have learned alot about how all the timers, stops, and everything else you need to accuratly predict that perfect run, and its alot of fun. I also enjoy Super Stock racing, it takes alot to make a car run far enough under the index to even think about getting competetive. Thats why lately I have been just bracket racing, kinda sneeking up on my combination. I am planning on racing a few Super Street events next year, and still enjoy watching the Super Gas/Comp cars maybe soon I will get mine to go a little faster and step up. Locally alot of our racing seems to be going to heads up index racing, its ok, but with the breakout rule, its just like running any of the super classes without electronics. I dont think you will see NHRA do away with any electronics at this point, they had a chance several years ago and didnt. There is too much revenue, and sponsor $$$ to NHRA for the sportsman racer from these companies, and NHRA is all about the $$$. __________________ NHRA: Comp 2200 - S/C 2201 NMRA 2012 Outlaw 10.5 #10

10-17-2008, 10:40 AM	#10
CBS VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Commerce, Mi Posts: 1,387 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: What would you do if the NHRA banned timers in .90 (Super) class racing? everybody has their opinion on things.....but what is the issue with the timer.....is it because they make guys that really don't have a chance to win competitive.....or is it because it allows guys that can afford some horsepower to go faster than they do....what is the issue...it looks to me like the guys that don't like them are the guys not racing much (outside of Bill Jackson...and he's old school and would be competitive either way)...and somehow the outlawing of timers would allow them to race... why are we talking about this...go race NMRA or NMCA and race the 10 cars for the title.... CBS almost Jason like