roush cars in stock and super stock

[BLAZER]

Originally Posted by FECARMAN

This is just the beginning. There are fifty Cobra Jet Mustangs with blowers coming next Spring. I think factoring will have a whole new meaning when this is said and done. This will be the battle of the blowers and good luck figuring out who is legal! Who said it's only cheating when you get caught. Caught for what?

Shelby made 100 428s and 55 429s with a blower ==all rated at 330 h/p --Caroll is now on the drawing board with specs--stay tuned--got a love the guy--ever tried his chili ?

[CrateCamaro]

Thats kinda getting away from what the grass roots of stock and super stock are all about. YES its a production vehicle but opening up this door is going to split the flood gate. If they had any brains they would think of a new class and invite the big three (GM/Ford/Mopar) and have match races. Kinda like how ihra had Top Stock but call it something else like Factory Supercar Showdown. It will draw a crowd and we all know there will be mid to high 8 second potential. Just dont mix it into stock and superstock and poison the prestege that the hero's of yesteryear have made. Dick Landy will turn in his grave if he knew there was going to be a power adder allowed in super stock. Haha...they probably still wont run with a SS/AH car.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Bwheat

Shelby made 100 428s and 55 429s with a blower ==all rated at 330 h/p --Caroll is now on the drawing board with specs--stay tuned--got a love the guy--ever tried his chili ?

I use his mix as the starting point for MY chili.

[Dick Butler]

I heard this was coming. I suggested a carb motor be considered. If it takes 3 years or more to level the field of Carb /Injected factoring will Supercharged versus carb versus turbo ever be fixed. I think NHRA should limit the Motor to carb models. or Injected but not open the way to these cars.One think you can count on is confusion and Bi###ing from all sides. Great Idea to reenter racing BUT.......

[Colin Wigle]

How can you discourage this, we are entering 2009 that is the technology that we should be racing with. Stock and super stock are not nostalgic classes. The big three are in trouble and for them to want to get back into class racing means a lot, at least to me. Racing a current car with current power is in the best interest of the OEM, is it not??? I’m quite sure back in the late 60,s and early 70,s when the muscle car wars were going on they were not running 1940 and 50 engines. This kind of action should bring back excitement to S/SS, giving fans the true potential of the car they have in their driveway.

Colin

[John Kelley]

Originally Posted by bill dedman

Certain racing associations attach telltale boost gauges to the engines in competing cars, with specific limits set. When they come in for a weight/fuel check, the telltale boost gauge had better not read over the prescribed limit.
Doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure that one out...

And WHAT associations would that be ????

[Alan Roehrich]

I don't have a problem with new cars and the manufacturers coming in to Stock Eliminator. I think it is a GOOD thing. And fuel injection is fine, too.

It looks like the "Roushcharger" is a roots style supercharger made by Eaton. I think NHRA can probably regulate them about as well as they regulate the rest of the stuff in Stock. Let them run.

We don't run Super Stock, you'll have to get your opinion on their running Super Stock from Super Stock racers.

By the way, that supercharger looks pretty damned efficient, you might be surprised what it will do (think PSI). And given that Eaton says their big one will feed "large displacement V engines", I'd imagine it will really feed a 4.6L V8, Roush is putting the biggest one on their cars, according to their website. I'll leave it up to someone else to figure out how well that's going to work in Stock and Super Stock. Here's a link to the Eaton TVS web page:

http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/Produc...iteId=EatonCom

[cutta]

Originally Posted by cwigle

How can you discourage this, we are entering 2009 that is the technology that we should be racing with. Stock and super stock are not nostalgic classes. The big three are in trouble and for them to want to get back into class racing means a lot, at least to me. Racing a current car with current power is in the best interest of the OEM, is it not??? I’m quite sure back in the late 60,s and early 70,s when the muscle car wars were going on they were not running 1940 and 50 engines. This kind of action should bring back excitement to S/SS, giving fans the true potential of the car they have in their driveway.

Colin

Colin, I'm part of the new generation being only 21, but I still admire the combinations of old because they are tride and true, and the basis of both Stock and Super Stock. I have absolutely no problem with the Supercharger being let in but I do have a problem with how NHRA is planning to manage the power these cars produce vs. that of the current SS/A-G cars. These motors have proved they can make plenty of power, upward of 2500HP maxed out, John Mihovetz proves that. But how is NHRA going to manage a power adder combination. Outlaw classes struggle enough trying to keep parity amongst turbo, nitrous, and blower. My question is how in the world is NHRA going to manage this?



Oh I know; no class war, just put them in a class of their own. SS/ABF( Blown Ford) hehe coudln't resist.

[bill dedman]

John Kelley asked: "And WHAT associations would that be ???? "

One such association is the "National Auto Sport Assn." (NASA)
For a discussion of that ruling, check out

http://tinyurl.com/62uvxs[/


There is another racing series that is exclusively Subaru turbocharged cars that also has
mandatory telltale boost gauges, but I can't remember what that series is called. But, both
organizations require them.

Why do you ask?

[bsa633]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

On the Shelby cars, Shelby is considered to be a manufacturer, not Fords.

Will these be "Roush cars" not ford then?

I am not against getting new "blood" into this as long it's fair to those that beat on combinations for decades to still remain at the top,but it often turn out bad,with "NHRA policy".. fishing for corpotate money the new cars uasully get a good factor and gets to enjoy days in the sun for a long time! The pontiacs(and chevys)is starting to get in line now...a decade later! .. with all the tactical games taking forms now it could take alot longer this time..

with that said...I cannot understand what the ford people has on NHRA..gotta be a good one..5-7 factors on the same engine..aluminum heads and intake on cars that never had them or any shortage of any of them..different carbs,,Chevy rods (and journals),oilpans that almost hit the ground..police this and that..talk about run whatya brung..