Colin Wigle

[John Kelley]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Stephen,
. Now if they only do something with those 327's that are hauling a#$.
Smitty

Don't work on your own combo !!
Get NHRA to factor the guys that do work hard on their cars...:-)

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by John Kelley

Don't work on your own combo !!
Get NHRA to factor the guys that do work hard on their cars...:-)

John...Smitty did not say he did not work hard on his combo...he was talking about if he had more money to spend in the car. There is a big difference in the availability and cost of Chevy parts versus a Ford Cleveland engine.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by John Kelley

Don't work on your own combo !!
Get NHRA to factor the guys that do work hard on their cars...:-)

If I got my junk to perform anywhere near where the 327's and 350's perform my combo would be rated near 340hp just because it's a Ford. There are only a few cars running the Cleveland combo, tell me when you have seen any of them number 1 qualifier or better yet top 10. All of the engines avaliable for my car are rated at 305, 313, 324, and 330. I am already at a disadvantage weight wise because of the body style and then you tack on the HP difference between the Chevy's and the Ford's and it can be substantial. I will take what I can get, I am not taking anything from those guys who have them money and work hard to make their car's go fast but the field should be level. I will not hide my car or run from anyone, I will race within my means and if the guys got me covered by .6 tenths oh well.
My point is this, those combos are killer, they continulely dominate classes and the way the rules are set they should be factored, that is all I am saying. Thanks for the motivation however to work on my combo because that is what we plan to do.

[stefan callender]

Originally Posted by Smitty

If I got my junk to perform anywhere near where the 327's and 350's perform my combo would be rated near 340hp just because it's a Ford. There are only a few cars running the Cleveland combo, tell me when you have seen any of them number 1 qualifier or better yet top 10. All of the engines avaliable for my car are rated at 305, 313, 324, and 330. I am already at a disadvantage weight wise because of the body style and then you tack on the HP difference between the Chevy's and the Ford's and it can be substantial. I will take what I can get, I am not taking anything from those guys who have them money and work hard to make their car's go fast but the field should be level. I will not hide my car or run from anyone, I will race within my means and if the guys got me covered by .6 tenths oh well.
My point is this, those combos are killer, they continulely dominate classes and the way the rules are set they should be factored, that is all I am saying. Thanks for the motivation however to work on my combo because that is what we plan to do.

Smitty, those combos arent that killer, the reason they are fast is because there are so many of them out there and the combo has been running for 30 years. There arent alot of Fords out there compared to the Chevys. But if you took the two combinations and stacked them equally, the Ford should be rated higher.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by stefan callender

But if you took the two combinations and stacked them equally, the Ford should be rated higher.

Under what reasoning? When you compare the Chevy engine, with a lower deck block, lighter rotating assembly, better parts availability, the advantage is for the Chevy. Do not justify the Cleveland advantage on the cylinder head ports and valve size only.