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[1320racer]

Without question it's harder because because as a whole bracket racers have more talent, more skill at both ends, whereas there are lots more ducks in class racing and if class racing isn't about the $ what is it about, that cheap meaningless trophy?

[JP1738]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Without question it's harder because because as a whole bracket racers have more talent, more skill at both ends, whereas there are lots more ducks in class racing and if class racing isn't about the $ what is it about, that cheap meaningless trophy?

It means a lot to the people that it means a lot to. It seems to be lost on you and that's ok. If I went out and won a golf tournament, got a trophy and a check for my troubles, that honor and prestige would be lost on people who don't golf or think it's a silly time-suck. Same goes with Class racing. The people who enjoy it appreciate the effort that goes in to winning one and it means the world to them. You don't really class race and don't find the honor in pursuing it, so I wouldn't expect you to feel the same way about it that myself and the rest of us on CR do.

[1320racer]

As you know, we've raced Super Comp and KILLED it, raced Super Street and did very well. In 5 years, won the division with the most points ever, finished #2 twice in the division, Jegs Allstar, 2 National event finals, won one and finished #4 in the world. Oh yea, we've got several of those meaningless trophies too.

That said, don't know if or when we will compete on the circus tour again. Kind of been there done that and my son is very busy growing his business and preparing for his life ahead, just got engaged last month.

Also the amount of money we have, can win in a single season is more than most every class racers could win in a lifetime.

[JP1738]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

As you know, we've raced Super Comp

And clearly you've lost the zeal enjoyed by the many who still chase the championship, so I stand by my comment. You don't care about it, so it means nothing to you. Potato Pototo.

Also a lot of "we" in that comment and not a lot of "I". Easy to crew chief a car and have a callous attitude towards this brand of racing despite vicarious success in it.

Congrats to your son on owning a business and getting engaged, that's fantastic. Wish nothing but the best for you and yours

[1320racer]

Many that competed against us class racing have said WE make a very good team that is hard to beat. I taught my son every thing he knows and he is an exceptional student. I gave him 2 top shelf cars that I prepare, I tune, I maintain, that if they are not the best on the property wherever we race, they are amongst the best. My son doesn't win without ME.

That said, I never had the "zeal" to class race, my son wanted to try Super Comp so I invested my time and $ preparing the car and him and the result was he did very well but he doesn't care now if we class race again, it's up to me. If/when I decided to, it only happens with his commitment to compete for the championship. We are not those guys that show up for an event or two, when they have nothing better to do to "have fun"

[JP1738]

There is a lot to unpack there, lol. But it explains a lot.

So, if I'm understanding your comment the way it's written, your son does not work on the cars or have anything invested in his racing opportunity other than showing up with a helmet? Kinda sad. I feel like most people here would agree that races are won in the shop/garage before you ever make it to the race track. The passion of being a gear head is what makes drag racing (and class racing even more so IMO) so much fun, and it doesn't sound like your son has that. It appears that you take that aspect of it seriously as we all should, but what a bummer to own nothing and have everything provided for you. From what I've heard from people close to your son, he really doesn't care anything about drag racing and wouldn't compete were it not for you and I think I just found out why.

I'm grateful and proud to say I own everything I have and receive little to no financial assistance. My dad helps me sling wrenches occasionally but it's something we've always done together and I cherish it. I owe my success to my teacher as well, but standing in the winner's circle in front of a car I built, prepared, and tuned brings me so much joy and pride. It doesn't sound like your son has that at all and I hate that for him. Winning is great, but winning with something you poured your heart and soul in is so much better.

[1320racer]

Your words, your assumptions that I will set straigfht

Originally Posted by JP1738

So, if I'm understanding your comment the way it's written, your son does not work on the cars or have anything invested in his racing opportunity other than showing up with a helmet? Kinda sad. I feel like most people here would agree that races are won in the shop/garage before you ever make it to the race track. The passion of being a gear head is what makes drag racing (and class racing even more so IMO) so much fun, and it doesn't sound like your son has that.

You clearly are NOT understanding my comments, those are your words not mine. My son does in fact work on the cars. Besides the weekly maintenance, a few years ago, he was competing in a big $ event without me and hurt the engine. Rather than packing up and going home, he pulled the engine, and installed our spare not only without me, but without any help! That said, working on the cars is not fun and I've been doing for over 50 years but I do it because back in the day I couldn't afford to pay someone and now because there are few, really only 2 that I trust to work on my race cars. Last, FYI, the best at what we do will tell you he is the furthest thing from a gearhead and that without other people working on his race cars he wouldn't be who he is.

From what I've heard from people close to your son, he really doesn't care anything about drag racing and wouldn't compete were it not for you and I think I just found out why.

and you've heard wrong, you're talking to the jealous haters. My son is very competitive, puts the work in to be the best at everything he does, there is no half assed effort, there is no it's good enough that's why he races and that's why he will be a millionaire within 2 years!

[KennyAnderson]

Originally Posted by JP1738

There is a lot to unpack there, lol. But it explains a lot.

So, if I'm understanding your comment the way it's written, your son does not work on the cars or have anything invested in his racing opportunity other than showing up with a helmet? Kinda sad. I feel like most people here would agree that races are won in the shop/garage before you ever make it to the race track. The passion of being a gear head is what makes drag racing (and class racing even more so IMO) so much fun, and it doesn't sound like your son has that. It appears that you take that aspect of it seriously as we all should, but what a bummer to own nothing and have everything provided for you. From what I've heard from people close to your son, he really doesn't care anything about drag racing and wouldn't compete were it not for you and I think I just found out why.

I'm grateful and proud to say I own everything I have and receive little to no financial assistance. My dad helps me sling wrenches occasionally but it's something we've always done together and I cherish it. I owe my success to my teacher as well, but standing in the winner's circle in front of a car I built, prepared, and tuned brings me so much joy and pride. It doesn't sound like your son has that at all and I hate that for him. Winning is great, but winning with something you poured your heart and soul in is so much better.

That is the SPIRIT of racing in general and I love it! Nothing is more satisfying that on track successes with a machine that you built with your own two hands....

Two thoughts, DP, I LOVE your drive. Racing Paw-Paw's car and putting the stocker in play are exactly what I'm talking about. Doing whatever it takes to make it to the next race. You should be very proud of yourself and know I admire the sh!t outta your efforts. When you had issues at Charlotte and loaded up and tested somewhere else then came back for R1 the next morning.... commendable to say the least!

I love this stocker stuff. I've raced everything from Outlaw 10.5, T/S, T/D, Super classes, and other assorted heads up classes with decent success and I'll unequivocally say this is the most challenging thing I've tackled in racing. Going fast and making your car uber consistent using mostly 50+ year old technology and parts is an exercise in mad geniusness, fabrication, ultra tinkering, and just plain trial and error. When it all comes together it's a damn good feeling!

[SS3860]

Originally Posted by JP1738

There is a lot to unpack there, lol. But it explains a lot.

So, if I'm understanding your comment the way it's written, your son does not work on the cars or have anything invested in his racing opportunity other than showing up with a helmet? Kinda sad. I feel like most people here would agree that races are won in the shop/garage before you ever make it to the race track. The passion of being a gear head is what makes drag racing (and class racing even more so IMO) so much fun, and it doesn't sound like your son has that. It appears that you take that aspect of it seriously as we all should, but what a bummer to own nothing and have everything provided for you. From what I've heard from people close to your son, he really doesn't care anything about drag racing and wouldn't compete were it not for you and I think I just found out why.

I'm grateful and proud to say I own everything I have and receive little to no financial assistance. My dad helps me sling wrenches occasionally but it's something we've always done together and I cherish it. I owe my success to my teacher as well, but standing in the winner's circle in front of a car I built, prepared, and tuned brings me so much joy and pride. It doesn't sound like your son has that at all and I hate that for him. Winning is great, but winning with something you poured your heart and soul in is so much better.

Your last sentence says it all. That's what it's about.


Tom Flowers
3860 E/SA

[Jason Shepard]

[QUOTE=1320racer;708609]As you know, we've raced Super Comp and KILLED it, raced Super Street and did very well. In 5 years, won the division with the most points ever, finished #2 twice in the division, Jegs Allstar, 2 National event finals, won one and finished #4 in the world. Oh yea, we've got several of those meaningless trophies too.

Still waiting for proof of those "meaningless trophies".....