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Old 01-23-2025, 01:51 PM   #1
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It is NOT an UNWRITTEN rule.

Page 21 of the NHRA 2025 Rule Book states "On the other hand, as to performance equipment, it is the general rule that unless optional performance equipment or performance-related modification is specifically permitted by this Rulebook, it is prohibited."

Section 11 covering Stock Eliminator under Camshaft/Lifters makes no mention of changing lifter diameter. Therefore it is illegal to do so.
Considering how the rule is worded, could it be argued that an increase in lifter diameter is not a "performance-related modification"? As in, the modification should increase strength/reliability, but not performance.
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Considering how the rule is worded, could it be argued that an increase in lifter diameter is not a "performance-related modification"? As in, the modification should increase strength/reliability, but not performance.

Remember max velocity is limited by lifter diameter. So a larger lifter diameter lets you use a cam with a greater max velocity. There is a performance increase in doing that.


PS If you look in the Comp Cams Master Lobe List you will see that they have a number of lobe profiles that only will work with a .904" lifter.


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Old 01-23-2025, 07:55 PM   #3
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For anyone who thinks it is okay, or thinks it is a "gray area", people have been DQ'd and suspended for it.


Oh, just write Glendora and try to get a letter on official letter head accepting/allowing it.


Funny thing is, if you don't have the cam lobes designed for the bigger lifters, you're not gaining anything, you're just illegal for no reason or advantage. There are probably some lobes out there, but are they even the lobes you'd actually need, and are they even modern designs that are fast?
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Thanks for the replies. I think I will staying with the .842 dia lifter. Im just making sure i'm totally legal.
As far as lifters themselves what are the best tool steel solid lifters out there?
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Old 01-24-2025, 08:47 AM   #5
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Thanks for the replies. I think I will staying with the .842 dia lifter. Im just making sure i'm totally legal.
As far as lifters themselves what are the best tool steel solid lifters out there?
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Old 01-24-2025, 10:20 AM   #6
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If bigger diam lifters, bigger cam diam didn't work , SS,comp and Pro Stock would not have lifters over one inch diameter/ huge wheels and 70 plus?s mm cams. It is a performance advantage.
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If bigger diam lifters, bigger cam diam didn't work , SS,comp and Pro Stock would not have lifters over one inch diameter/ huge wheels and 70 plus?s mm cams. It is a performance advantage.
Yes, and if you can't increase cam core and/or lifter diameter, lofting the valvetrain reduces friction and adds hp, but some prefer keeping the lifter in constant contact with the lobe.
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Thanks for the replies. I think I will staying with the .842 dia lifter. Im just making sure i'm totally legal.
As far as lifters themselves what are the best tool steel solid lifters out there?

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