ET with and without wheelie.

[jimmyparker]

Hard to have a meaningful discussion with 1320 around.

Pose a question to your fellow stock, superstock racers that run your class and get opinions from a bracket racer.

I agree with my Buddy Mike, just leave me and my posts alone.

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by jimmyparker

Hard to have a meaningful discussion with 1320 around.

translated...can't spew myth, rumor, hearsay and bs on this forum when 1320 states the TRUTH backed by FACTS!

[J.R. Haddad]

It is obvious that every combination will have its own characteristics, weight transfer amount vs. wheel spin, two wheels on the ground vs. four, convertors reaction to it all, etc. etc. Serious testing on your own combination will give you the answer. For those not living in the Northeast, you will have to accomplish this without Ed. We know this puts you at a distinct disadvantage, but do the best you can.

J.R.

[Dan Bennett]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

...1320 please do not reply to my post?..I have dealt with enough IDIOTS today and like many on CR I do not give 2 ****z about your opinion OR your (. ) car ??

I started the thread to try to scrape the knowledge of the people here who've been successful for years. In this case, to try and understand why something that shouldn't work actually seems necessary. It's very obvious that people have decided that through testing. Maybe the wrong section and we may never get a clear explanation, but pretty interesting still.

It looks like that guy is pretty invested in the topic, but I've not seen a single thing he typed, no doubt using a single finger. He is the only person in roughly 30 years of online conversations that I've ever blocked. I recommend that move highly. You know, separate the wheat from the chaff, the signal from the noise...

[JGrossijr]

No 2 cars are exactly the same so it's unlikely there is a "right" answer that fits every application. In my experience as long as you're not unloading the rear tires, it's not the wheelie that slows a car down, it's the landing. I have found that if I can smooth out the G-meter dip at touch down, without giving up any 60', the car goes faster. There are lots of different ways to approach that, including wheel stand height.

[SS3860]

Originally Posted by JGrossijr

No 2 cars are exactly the same so it's unlikely there is a "right" answer that fits every application. In my experience as long as you're not unloading the rear tires, it's not the wheelie that slows a car down, it's the landing. I have found that if I can smooth out the G-meter dip at touch down, without giving up any 60', the car goes faster. There are lots of different ways to approach that, including wheel stand height.

That's what I found also with my old bracket car, trying to control wheelstands with travel limiters, timing and weight. When I finally got a good set of front shocks from Randy Manns et's improved and consistency came around. When I bought my stocker, I didn't give the QA1 shocks a chance. Phone call to Fast Shocks before it ever hit the track.


Tom Flowers
E/SA 3860

[340Cuda]

Originally Posted by JGrossijr

No 2 cars are exactly the same so it's unlikely there is a "right" answer that fits every application. In my experience as long as you're not unloading the rear tires, it's not the wheelie that slows a car down, it's the landing. I have found that if I can smooth out the G-meter dip at touch down, without giving up any 60', the car goes faster. There are lots of different ways to approach that, including wheel stand height.

I agree 100%, I remember the late Ed Wright said his Firebird needed to do a wheelie to run well. Despite his representations Ed was one of the sharper knives in the drawer and I am sure that was correct for his car.

However it is apparently not true for every car.

I continue to miss Ed.

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by Dan Bennett

I started the thread...

You didn't start this thread!

Originally Posted by jimmyparker

Hard to have a meaningful discussion with 1320 around.

Pose a question to your fellow stock, superstock racers that run your class and get opinions from a bracket racer..

1. where did the OP say his question was regarding a S/SS car? Answer...he didn't and it doesn't matter!

2. This bracket racer knows far more than you!

3. My firebird has won more Wally's and more $ than anyone replying here! Now What part of the truth and the facts don't you like?