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Old 01-28-2024, 10:47 PM   #1
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There's really a simple solution that has been mentioned on here before, all winners (could be) subject to teardown/inspection. I had to do this 3x at Indy before they'd give me my class win Wally. They could even go a bit further and tag the last 8 cars in the eliminator, subject to inspection. Brian Seaberg 627
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Old 01-29-2024, 09:37 AM   #2
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There's really a simple solution that has been mentioned on here before, all winners (could be) subject to teardown/inspection. I had to do this 3x at Indy before they'd give me my class win Wally. They could even go a bit further and tag the last 8 cars in the eliminator, subject to inspection. Brian Seaberg 627
But you kept going 120 under correct?
They ain’t tearing down ****
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Old 01-29-2024, 11:54 AM   #3
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But you kept going 120 under correct?
They ain’t tearing down ****
Nhra is more worried about you stickers … to not pay you than tech
NHRA would only have to threaten to do teardown on winners and RU, they could also just do a thorough technical inspection and look at electronics for the last 8 in the eliminator.
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Old 01-29-2024, 12:00 PM   #4
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NHRA would only have to threaten to do teardown on winners and RU, they could also just do a thorough technical inspection and look at electronics for the last 8 in the eliminator.
Or they could just go back to the old ruling requiring that a "data-logger" be completely disconnected during eliminations. That should be easy enough to check in the staging lanes.
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Old 01-29-2024, 12:28 PM   #5
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[QUOTE=Billy Nees;692334]Or they could just go back to the old ruling requiring that a "data-logger" be completely disconnected during eliminations. That should be easy enough to check in the staging lanes.[/QUOTE

How do you separate the data recorder from the EFI on a new car?
I would be more worried about ignition.
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Old 01-29-2024, 12:39 PM   #6
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Or they could just go back to the old ruling requiring that a "data-logger" be completely disconnected during eliminations. That should be easy enough to check in the staging lanes.[/QUOTE

How do you separate the data recorder from the EFI on a new car?
I would be more worried about ignition.
You don't need a "data recorder" to run the EFI!
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Old 01-29-2024, 01:14 PM   #7
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But isn’t the data recorder part of Fast and Holley Systems?
Older cars yes I get that .
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Old 01-29-2024, 01:20 PM   #8
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You don't need a "data recorder" to run the EFI!
As far as I know, all aftermarket ECUs that are accepted by NHRA have built in datalogging capabilities. And, unlike a Racepak which cannot datalog without an SD card, ECUs have integrated memory, and don't need an external storage device for data acquisition. An MSD Grid is an ignition box that can also data log, and you can't tell someone that their ignition box can't be hooked up during eliminations. I know that with a Holley ECU, you can program it to begin data acquisition automatically, whether it be RPM based, TPS value, so no need to even press a button to do so. Unfortunately there is no one true answer to the issue at hand. Should the Grid have been allowed in Stock/Super Stock? IMHO probably not. If they outlaw it, there will probably be an angry mob, so that alone may deter the decision to take it away.
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