The Fall f the United States, The End

[Eddies66]

Originally Posted by Mike Jones

There is a little more to the story, than is usually presented today.
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A little bias in this article. My concern is what religion would be taught in school and by whom. I believe that is the parent that should responsible.

[Randy Wells]

Originally Posted by Eddies66

A little bias in this article. My concern is what religion would be taught in school and by whom. I believe that is the parent that should responsible.

Public schools are bias, just about every classroom in America had a picture of Obama, not many had a picture of Trump, that is bias at its best. Thank God my grand daughters go to school at a private Christian Academy. I can't believe that you would think teaching sexual explicit content to 3rd graders is alright. Tell me the teachers unions are not bias.

Randy Wells
I/S 5628

[Eddies66]

Originally Posted by Randy Wells

Public schools are bias, just about every classroom in America had a picture of Obama, not many had a picture of Trump, that is bias at its best. Thank God my grand daughters go to school at a private Christian Academy. I can't believe that you would think teaching sexual explicit content to 3rd graders is alright. Tell me the teachers unions are not bias.

Randy Wells
I/S 5628

I would think that you need to be involved in your local school board as an elected official or the PTA if you have such a strong issue in what is being taught in the classroom. Teachers are given a curriculum that is mandated by the State, it is the teachers responsibility to develop a lesson plan with enabling objectives and terminal learning objectives. Using Bloom's Taxonomy of Learning to move young adults through the learning process. It is not in the best interest of the student and the educational process for a teacher to teach their agenda. With regards to unions, Nevada, as you may or may not know falls under 14B of the Taft-Hartley Act, so I was never a member.

[SStockDart]

"Whether secular or religious, everyone brings moral presuppositions to the table. Religious people should not be told to check their beliefs at the door simply because they are religiously based."

Ed, your stated concern is that religion would be taught and by whom. Per my "cut and paste" above.....what gives the right to teach presuppositions of some (GLQRDRSEIEIO) and not the other? (The majority).

[Eddies66]

Originally Posted by SStockDart

"Whether secular or religious, everyone brings moral presuppositions to the table. Religious people should not be told to check their beliefs at the door simply because they are religiously based."

Ed, your stated concern is that religion would be taught and by whom. Per my "cut and paste" above.....what gives the right to teach presuppositions of some (GLQRDRSEIEIO) and not the other? (The majority).

I am a firm believer that morality and ethics are the responsibility of the parents. Our society has gotten lazy in this aspect, let it be someone else's job, I just don't have time for this! I took a Theology class in college, it was one of the hardest classes and most demanding I had ever taken. There was one question that the professor provided for the class and the whole semester, this question required a term paper to be written. I struggled with it for half a semester and finally resigned myself to the fact that there was only one answer. But here was the question: "Prove to me that God exists". The belief that God exists is faith based, there is no factual proof of his existence. The faith gives people hope that there is better life beyond the bounds of this life. As student's cognitive learning skills become concrete at about 10, they are going to ask hard questions and they may ask them about religion and frankly I can't give them a factual answer. And no two teachers are going to have the same answer.

[BRETV]

Originally Posted by Eddies66

I am a firm believer that morality and ethics are the responsibility of the parents. Our society has gotten lazy in this aspect, let it be someone else's job, I just don't have time for this! I took a Theology class in college, it was one of the hardest classes and most demanding I had ever taken. There was one question that the professor provided for the class and the whole semester, this question required a term paper to be written. I struggled with it or half a semester and finally resigned myself to the fact that there was only one answer. But here was the question: "Prove to me that God exists". The belief that God exists is faith based, there is no factual proof of his existence. The faith gives people hope that there is better life beyond the bounds of this life. As student's cognitive learning skills become concrete at about 10, they are going to ask hard questions and they may ask them about religion and frankly I can't give them a factual answer. And no two teachers are going to have the same answer.

No proof of God's existence? The whole world, every human and how our body works, animals, plants, trees, birds, the oceans and the universe and the whole order of it all. Just an example, the human eye and all our senses it's a master piece. If that isn't proof there is a God and a creator you are blind. You have to have more faith in believing that all this is an accident than it was created. A painting doesn't just create itself. Someone plans and creates it. He says that people that can't see have scales over their eyes. I got a question prove He doesn't exist?


Bret Velde
2003 ??/SA

[Carguy49]

Thank you, Bret, for saying what I was trying to figure out how to say.

God Bless You, all it takes is the faith of a child and that is all God asks of us.

[Greg Reimer 7376]

With the complexities of the world we live in, and in life in general, it can't be an accident. The big bang would only have left a big mess. The Bible,which is the word of God, starts out by saying,"In The Beginning GOD created the heavens and earth". He didn't go into a great amount of detail to explain the process, He didn't have to. That end justified the means, whatever processes God selected to achieve His desired end.Besides, who did He have to explain anything to? He certainly didn't have to ask anybody's permission in order to be God. God is a God of absolutes. Everything He ever did is absolutely right according to His standards. That being said, He has the authority to dictate policy and we are fortunate to have a choice to either follow His leading, or go our own way. If we do that, we take our chances. God is a God of love, He loves us, provides for all of us, enables all of us with abilities, talents, and intelligence. It is our choice to follow him or not. That being said, we live in a society with fewer and fewer absolutes. Seems like anything goes anymore. The further we get down our own road rather than the higher way, the more we prove over and over again that we don't have many answers. Any more, if the mention is that we need to turn from our waywardness and seek God's face, that usually results in a level of derisiveness in the reply of others. You know what one tangible proof is of God's existence and presence on Earth? He gave us a mind of our own,He expects us to use it, and He will show us how if we let Him.

[63corvette]

I am in my 70’s and as a kid during the summer at night I would lay out in my yard and look up at the stars. I would always wonder if someone was out there looking back from another world. I always knew that the world and all those stars and possible other planets were not an accident. There had to be plan for the creation of such an amazing universe. Science did not and cannot answer all the questions about the creation so there is only one other answer for me.
I am a believer that God had a plan and what we see all around us is what that plan created.
The United States was founded on Christian faith and values which I have witnessed being degraded in my lifetime. If you disagree pull some legal currency out of your pocket and read the words on it.
It seems the US if getting farther away from those founding principles.
I hope our great country can survive far into the future for my kids and grandkids.
My 10 Cents which was 2 Cents Before Inflation
Rick Cates
Canyon, TX

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by 63corvette

I am in my 70’s and as a kid during the summer at night I would lay out in my yard and look up at the stars. I would always wonder if someone was out there looking back from another world. I always knew that the world and all those stars and possible other planets were not an accident. There had to be plan for the creation of such an amazing universe. Science did not and cannot answer all the questions about the creation so there is only one other answer for me.
I am a believer that God had a plan and what we see all around us is what that plan created.
The United States was founded on Christian faith and values which I have witnessed being degraded in my lifetime. If you disagree pull some legal currency out of your pocket and read the words on it.
It seems the US if getting farther away from those founding principles.
I hope our great country can survive far into the future for my kids and grandkids.
My 10 Cents which was 2 Cents Before Inflation
Rick Cates
Canyon, TX

I have plenty of legal US currency that doesn't have what you are looking for on it.That was not added to the currency or the pledge until the 195x's. I was in school and remember when the pledge was changed.


Stan