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Old 11-03-2022, 02:04 PM   #1
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I can only imagine all the letters of superseded valve springs appearing over night.
It won't come to that if they can come up with something somewhat easy to police. Maybe stock dia. and height +/- something and no more than 180/200 on the seat.
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Old 11-03-2022, 08:03 PM   #2
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Bubski’s thinking !! It sure would be more cost effective and in the spirit of stock eliminator rules to go back to the valve spring rule and forget about all of this nonsense with exotic materials and changing the rules to be closer to SS !! How can it be possibly cheaper to redesign your entire valve train ?? All that needs to be done is go back to what used to work in Stock !! Why can’t change ever go backwards to what worked previously ?? Why does change always move toward more problems and expense ??
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Old 11-03-2022, 08:06 PM   #3
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One of the best posts in a very long time. Bravo Bubski!
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Old 11-04-2022, 12:05 PM   #4
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Bubski Grow a pair and use your real name.

Frank I'm sure we must have met threw the years but do you even have a Stocker?

Paul you and Charlie are trying to get a motor built. What are you going to use for lifters? Or are you going to put a small cam with not a lot of valve spring pressure.

There are others on here with a solution to go backwards for the older cars. Some of you don't race Stock and probably never will. Others race in classes that they don't have anyone that competes in their class and won't see a heads up race all year. I'd call that bracket racing and you don't need to worry how fast your car goes. I like the part of competing against other cars that run the same class as I do. And I don't want to have to bring a knife to a gun fight because a part is no longer available.

James so you have an experiment going on. I hope they work all season.
But if not let us know how big of a hole in the oil pan they put and what it will cost to fix.

I don't need any lifters at this point. But with everything we are allowed to do right now. And with half the cars in Stock using roller lifters already. You think letting all Stockers use them is going to make us closer to Super Stock. Really!!
That horse left the barn years ago too.



Bubski pay attention to this. I USE MY REAL NAME again if your going post on here why don't you first grow a SET !! Until then I look at your post's as a no name CLOWN. Barry Parker

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Old 11-03-2022, 07:05 PM   #5
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John, I thought you were going with to race SS GT class with a 350 2 barrel?
How about a 5 HP penalty for Roller cam in stock?
If a change to Roller Cams is made then change the piston rings to what ever rings you want. Spacers are get expensive as well. Oh and then for low compression motors how about making pump gas legal in stock as well. Could save some money there as well. .

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Yep still going with the 350 2 barrel that is if there's still a track left in town LoL
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Old 11-03-2022, 07:15 PM   #6
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Old 11-05-2022, 05:55 PM   #7
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John, I thought you were going with to race SS GT class with a 350 2 barrel?
How about a 5 HP penalty for Roller cam in stock?
If a change to Roller Cams is made then change the piston rings to what ever rings you want. Spacers are get expensive as well. Oh and then for low compression motors how about making pump gas legal in stock as well. Could save some money there as well. .

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I like the pump gas idea.
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Old 11-05-2022, 06:43 PM   #8
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I like the pump gas idea.
I think the biggest problem would be fuel check.
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I still remember the spring numbers, 98 lbs seat and 202 lbs open. I was tossed once for being 2 lbs over. I'd be fine going back but that's just me being a purists for Stock. True hydraulics and only oem solid lifter cars. That would make nobody going 1 second under.
I not saying that it should go to the old way, just an opinion.
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Old 11-05-2022, 07:41 PM   #10
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Hydraulic Chevy cams were allowed the stock spring at about 84-86lbs on the seat. Single spring with a flat damper.

6000 rpm give or take a few hundred was all you were good for...1970 Stocker....
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