Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing!

James Perrone · 10-17-2022, 06:31 PM

Maybe division director ordered a rerun as both index were displayed ?
That would make sense .

Dragrac419 · 10-17-2022, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by James Perrone

Maybe division director ordered a rerun as both index were displayed ?
That would make sense .

That would be the wrong call as once you stage you own the dial in. Jim should have gotten the competition bye the second round. Agree this was a bad call on the DD. Lucky if my calculations are correct to did not effect anyone in the top 10 points.

Frank Castros · 10-17-2022, 07:40 PM

What in God's name is going on at these races.
D7 and D2 shame!
D6 is like a secret society.
I don't recall seeing this crap in D1, D3 and D4 or am I wrong?

442OLDS · 10-17-2022, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank Castros

What in God's name is going on at these races.
D7 and D2 shame!
D6 is like a secret society.
I don't recall seeing this crap in D1, D3 and D4 or am I wrong?

There were a few questionable things in D3 too,but I guess we just keep it to ourselves.

tstickff · 10-17-2022, 07:57 PM

I’m confused, what should Troy do at this point? If The Who’s who of D2 made the decision as it is now, what should be rectified? Just for future reference…thank you!

Tim Stickles

Larry Hill · 10-17-2022, 08:52 PM

Simple, the person making the decision should know and understand the rules in the rule book then apply them.

The DD has the power to change the outcome of a race but should they use it. It's spelled out in the race procedures. It wasn't a first or worst ruling.

Mike Pearson · 10-18-2022, 10:25 AM

I have been burned by a wrong dial in before. After that happened I check my dial in every round before I pull in to the pre stage beam. I have had to get it corrected several times. Once you stage and the race is on you own the dial on the board. Mistakes do happen and you have to do what you need to do by making sure your dial is correct.

Jack Zimmerman · 10-18-2022, 10:39 AM

Just to clarify something for everyone and clear up any misconceptions.....per the NHRA rulebook (Section 2, Page 2 under Staging in the 2022 book) a racer has accepted the dial-in when they PRE-STAGE not stage. This has apparently been the rule for years and it bit me at the Charlotte national event a few years ago when I backed out of the pre-staged beam and told them the dial-in was wrong and they wouldn't change it and they fired the tree and red lighted me.

jamie2370 · 10-18-2022, 01:22 PM

The fact that Casey was pushed off the track with track equipment would be a "disqualification" of the run per the Rule Book. Bye runs are the only allowed run where you do not have to cross the finish line under power. You can not get a "time" when being pushed

Charlie Yannetti · 10-18-2022, 01:41 PM

While I get the jist of the conversation, that started on the Monday after the race, I'm confused as to what Huntzberry was supposed to do after the fact??..

If Casey had a win ticket, how does the loser of the previous round appear for the next round, unless an indication was made that Casey was broke.. that would give his next opponent a competition bye..

My confusion comes in with, did Huntzberry get reinstated??.. I'm thinking that Casey had Huntzberry, and Casey got the win slip, sending him to the next round.. OOOOORRR, did I miss something..

All that said, it appears that D2 failed, and let the race continue, SOME HOW!!

10-17-2022, 06:31 PM	#1
James Perrone VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 1,676 Likes: 3,374 Liked 1,820 Times in 425 Posts	Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing! Maybe division director ordered a rerun as both index were displayed ? That would make sense . __________________ james perrone 1290 STK

10-17-2022, 07:40 PM	#3
Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 2,972 Likes: 2,584 Liked 2,718 Times in 958 Posts	Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing! What in God's name is going on at these races. D7 and D2 shame! D6 is like a secret society. I don't recall seeing this crap in D1, D3 and D4 or am I wrong?

10-17-2022, 07:57 PM	#5
tstickff Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 469 Likes: 308 Liked 561 Times in 138 Posts	Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing! I’m confused, what should Troy do at this point? If The Who’s who of D2 made the decision as it is now, what should be rectified? Just for future reference…thank you! Tim Stickles __________________ Tim Stickles

10-17-2022, 08:52 PM	#6
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,635 Likes: 1,929 Liked 10,694 Times in 2,227 Posts	Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing! Simple, the person making the decision should know and understand the rules in the rule book then apply them. The DD has the power to change the outcome of a race but should they use it. It's spelled out in the race procedures. It wasn't a first or worst ruling. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

10-18-2022, 10:25 AM	#7
Mike Pearson VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,446 Likes: 614 Liked 1,919 Times in 576 Posts	Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing! I have been burned by a wrong dial in before. After that happened I check my dial in every round before I pull in to the pre stage beam. I have had to get it corrected several times. Once you stage and the race is on you own the dial on the board. Mistakes do happen and you have to do what you need to do by making sure your dial is correct. __________________ Mike Pearson 2485 SS

10-18-2022, 10:39 AM	#8
Jack Zimmerman Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Clemmons, NC Posts: 35 Likes: 0 Liked 11 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing! Just to clarify something for everyone and clear up any misconceptions.....per the NHRA rulebook (Section 2, Page 2 under Staging in the 2022 book) a racer has accepted the dial-in when they PRE-STAGE not stage. This has apparently been the rule for years and it bit me at the Charlotte national event a few years ago when I backed out of the pre-staged beam and told them the dial-in was wrong and they wouldn't change it and they fired the tree and red lighted me.

10-18-2022, 01:22 PM	#9
jamie2370 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Perry, GA Posts: 331 Likes: 11 Liked 239 Times in 90 Posts	Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing! The fact that Casey was pushed off the track with track equipment would be a "disqualification" of the run per the Rule Book. Bye runs are the only allowed run where you do not have to cross the finish line under power. You can not get a "time" when being pushed

10-18-2022, 01:41 PM	#10
Charlie Yannetti Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alpine, NJ Posts: 568 Likes: 188 Liked 192 Times in 83 Posts	Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing! While I get the jist of the conversation, that started on the Monday after the race, I'm confused as to what Huntzberry was supposed to do after the fact??.. If Casey had a win ticket, how does the loser of the previous round appear for the next round, unless an indication was made that Casey was broke.. that would give his next opponent a competition bye.. My confusion comes in with, did Huntzberry get reinstated??.. I'm thinking that Casey had Huntzberry, and Casey got the win slip, sending him to the next round.. OOOOORRR, did I miss something.. All that said, it appears that D2 failed, and let the race continue, SOME HOW!!