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Jim Wahl 10-17-2022 02:03 PM

Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing!
 
Troy Huntzberry, you know you should NOT have gone to the second round at Orlando. Casey Miles won first round. Jim


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Casey Miles 10-17-2022 02:47 PM

Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing!
 
At every race I've been to, if you stage and your dial is wrong, you own it. I was sick with food poison, I was just in the car because I had to. I wasn't paying much attention to anything other than just trying to make a pass. I know better about the dials, but again I didn't even look since I just wanted to get the race done. Instead of our dials, the indexes were on the board, I didn't look. I went 100 ft out and the car broke the engine. I did notice that my win light was on, so I had the car pushed to the scale. It was correct weight. It's the drivers responsibility on both lanes to look at the dials. You stage, you own it. If you go to the first rd of stock on NHRA.TV, we are the first pair out. I have a time slip which indicates I was the winner, circumstances are messed up, but mistakes are made and it lands on the driver's.

Larry Hill 10-17-2022 03:48 PM

Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing!
 
If the 302 car did not cross the center line or hit the wall and the opponent broke out and lost, Casey is the one advancing to round two according to the rules as I understand them. The racer that took it on the chin was the person that should have had a broke single due to Casey engine failure. In class racing a racer has to dial the index or quicker for the class the car is teched in as. Its the racer responsibility to check the dial in on being correct. If the dial is incorrect tell the starter and have it changed, if you stage the car you bought the race. I know first hand from a race in Noble, OK

james schaechter 10-17-2022 04:38 PM

Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing!
 
This was 100% the DD’s decision.

Once the DD assesses the situation and makes the call, the racers are out of it.

Jim Wahl 10-17-2022 05:07 PM

Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing!
 
The DD can not over rule the RULE BOOK! There are too many case histories on this. Both drivers accepted the dials on the board. That's the rule. That's why they are in the rule book, to make decisions by. Case over. The DD has no clue what the book says. Jim

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Larry Hill 10-17-2022 05:19 PM

Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing!
 
NHRA needs to read and understand the Rule Book under Section 2 Race Procedures as written.

Part quote from Rule Book Section 2. Break Out rules: Contestants who race below the posted index or category standard during eliminations are disqualified, with the following exceptions:

1) when an opponent foul starts or crosses a boundary line

2) on a single run

3) when both cars run under their index, the driver who is least under is the winner

4) when two cars of the same class race (doesn't apply to Super categories)

5) two drivers under by same amount the racer crossing wins

It's a Rule Book that we all play by, its not a Suggestion Manual.

Rules applied in a fair, firm, and friendly manner make the sport fun for all participants.

Steve Stasko 10-17-2022 06:12 PM

Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 669319)
This was 100% the DD’s decision.

Once the DD assesses the situation and makes the call, the racers are out of it.

This is exactly what I was thinking. I had an instance at an NHRA track last year where my car died when I got on the 2-step. The other guy was spotting me about 2/10ths. His tree dropped, and he proceeded to run under. I fired my car, took the green, and drove it down but did not complete the run (turned off just after the 1/8th mile). Time slip showed me as the winner. The track owner asked me if I planned on coming up for the next round, otherwise he was going to reinstate the other car.

Billy Nees 10-17-2022 06:23 PM

Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 669323)
Rules applied in a fair, firm, and friendly manner make the sport fun for all participants.

Wishful thinking in today's day-and-age!

James Perrone 10-17-2022 06:31 PM

Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing!
 
Maybe division director ordered a rerun as both index were displayed ?
That would make sense .

Dragrac419 10-17-2022 07:05 PM

Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 669329)
Maybe division director ordered a rerun as both index were displayed ?
That would make sense .

That would be the wrong call as once you stage you own the dial in. Jim should have gotten the competition bye the second round. Agree this was a bad call on the DD. Lucky if my calculations are correct to did not effect anyone in the top 10 points.


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