IMuscle Car Era Popularity - Indy 2022 Stock

Henrys Toy · 09-07-2022, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tavirace

To me it seems the rules unfairly favor any car with a quadrajet in both stock and super/stock. If the rules were loosened up we could see a greater variety of combinations.

Good morning to Tavirace and to all,
"If the rules were loosened up" please be careful of what you wish for!
I know opinions vary on this subject, but it's just my opinion that if they " loosen the rules " up anymore - we'll all have Bracket Cars, then you would have your " variety " . Is that what you want?
At least the cars we race called Stockers, still have a semblance to the way the cars were assembled from the Factory. No one has produced a New Quadra Jet carb in the last 15 t0 20 years now. I'm still using a Q-Jet I purchased from Scoggin & Dickey approximately 20 years ago. NHRA has not allowed a " Replacement Head " for the 1969 350 / 255 in stock so when I finally run out of cylinder heads - what do I do then ?
All I'm saying is look before you leap. That's just my 2 cents no one has to agree and I'm not looking for pity. We have all done this to ourselves.

Respectfully,
Henry Kunz 1534 H/SA

tavirace · 09-07-2022, 11:38 AM

I have raced stock before and appreciate the class. I was at Indy this year and enjoyed watching as much of class eliminations as I could. I did hear tear downs weren't as strict as they once were, could this be a trend. Let's look at one car I have a 1971 Pontiac Ventura four door. The most power it comes with is a 307 2bbl according to the guides.But I can change the front sheet metal and rear tailights and turn it into a Nova. Then I can claim it as a 1970. Looking at the guide it tells me I can run a 350 factory 300 horsepower with aftermarket heads, only available in a SS two door to my knowledge but it's there. Then it tells me I can run a 402 factory 350 horsepower big block in a 1970 Nova non SS four door, shipping weight 3346.Has anyone ever seen one ? But it's stock legal. But if I showed up with a aftermarket carb on my 307, I'm out of there !

Jack Matyas · 09-07-2022, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tavirace

I have raced stock before and appreciate the class. I was at Indy this year and enjoyed watching as much of class eliminations as I could. I did hear tear downs weren't as strict as they once were, could this be a trend. Let's look at one car I have a 1971 Pontiac Ventura four door. The most power it comes with is a 307 2bbl according to the guides.But I can change the front sheet metal and rear tailights and turn it into a Nova. Then I can claim it as a 1970. Looking at the guide it tells me I can run a 350 factory 300 horsepower with aftermarket heads, only available in a SS two door to my knowledge but it's there. Then it tells me I can run a 402 factory 350 horsepower big block in a 1970 Nova non SS four door, shipping weight 3346.Has anyone ever seen one ? But it's stock legal. But if I showed up with a aftermarket carb on my 307, I'm out of there !

You could change your car to a '73 model and run the 350 Pontiac two barrel that works well or to a '74 model that came with the Pontiac 350 and a Q-Jet ..........

Steve Stasko · 09-07-2022, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tavirace

... Looking at the guide it tells me I can run a 350 factory 300 horsepower with aftermarket heads, only available in a SS two door to my knowledge but it's there. Then it tells me I can run a 402 factory 350 horsepower big block in a 1970 Nova non SS four door, shipping weight 3346.Has anyone ever seen one ? But it's stock legal. But if I showed up with a aftermarket carb on my 307, I'm out of there !

We can play this game all day. Lots of stuff in the guide that was never available, or maybe 1 or 2 were built. The rules are already pretty forgiving...no need to make it worse.

As far as that Ventura...change it into a Nova and run the 307-2bbl. Lower hp rating whether you run it as a '71 or '72, and it doesn't have to be as heavy. There may even be someone on this forum who runs such a combo...

tavirace · 09-07-2022, 05:49 PM

I really appreciate the comments from knowledgeable people, I want to create a car with some longevity and hope the class is going to have it also. We either have to assume that change has come to an end or if it does come what could it be. The class has to remain viable to racers and most importantly NHRA or they won't keep it.

09-07-2022, 11:38 AM	#2
tavirace Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2021 Posts: 37 Likes: 7 Liked 18 Times in 13 Posts	Re: IMuscle Car Era Popularity - Indy 2022 Stock I have raced stock before and appreciate the class. I was at Indy this year and enjoyed watching as much of class eliminations as I could. I did hear tear downs weren't as strict as they once were, could this be a trend. Let's look at one car I have a 1971 Pontiac Ventura four door. The most power it comes with is a 307 2bbl according to the guides.But I can change the front sheet metal and rear tailights and turn it into a Nova. Then I can claim it as a 1970. Looking at the guide it tells me I can run a 350 factory 300 horsepower with aftermarket heads, only available in a SS two door to my knowledge but it's there. Then it tells me I can run a 402 factory 350 horsepower big block in a 1970 Nova non SS four door, shipping weight 3346.Has anyone ever seen one ? But it's stock legal. But if I showed up with a aftermarket carb on my 307, I'm out of there !

09-07-2022, 05:49 PM	#5
tavirace Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2021 Posts: 37 Likes: 7 Liked 18 Times in 13 Posts	Re: IMuscle Car Era Popularity - Indy 2022 Stock I really appreciate the comments from knowledgeable people, I want to create a car with some longevity and hope the class is going to have it also. We either have to assume that change has come to an end or if it does come what could it be. The class has to remain viable to racers and most importantly NHRA or they won't keep it.