Explain to me again, please

[Terry Cain]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Soooooooo.......... you don't care about qualifying being "fair to the old flat tappet cars", you care about it being "fair" to you!
Here's a "fair" way to make this work without affecting anyone else, why don't you go and buy a "non-vin,state of the art, factory made race car"!

It's thinking like THIS that has S/SS in the screwed up state that it's in and why there needs to be some re-thinking and some back-tracking of some of the rules by NHRA and Tech.

I would think a rule change would effect "all flattappet motors. Am I wrong to think that?

[SDT1DYI]

Originally Posted by Terry Cain

I would think a rule change would effect "all flattappet motors. Am I wrong to think that?

If for some reason NHRA elected to change this rule, I would say "either or". Some motors may not like rollers, depending on the design of there flat tappet existing cam etc.

Steve Teeter Stk/SS 620

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Terry Cain

I would think a rule change would effect "all flattappet motors. Am I wrong to think that?

And that's an awful lot of flat tappet motors. What kind of an effect do you think that change will have on the rest of the motor? What else will need to be changed to take advantage of the ability to use more aggressive cam profiles without breaking a lifter or wiping a cam? Not to mention the higher RPM capability.
What we need is a valve spring rule.

[Dwight Southerland]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

And that's an awful lot of flat tappet motors. What kind of an effect do you think that change will have on the rest of the motor? What else will need to be changed to take advantage of the ability to use more aggressive cam profiles without breaking a lifter or wiping a cam? Not to mention the higher RPM capability.
What we need is a valve spring rule.

Bingo. More separation for Stock and Super Stock.

Quickly taking the “Stock” out of stock. Yes there have been major changes. If we want or need all that just move to Superstock?
Every change suggested creates a new set of issues and not just costs. Roller cams / lifters/springs double the cost.
. EFI probably triple the cost.

[Grey Ghost]

Why did hydraulic lifter combinations get solids and adjustable rockers? I'm fine with that improvement but it certainly wasn't new technology. My 64 MW was OEM solids.

[GUMP]

I must be really dumb running hydraulic lifters, stock rockers, and beehive valve springs on my non-VIN, state of art, factory race cars.......

[Terry Cain]

Originally Posted by GUMP

I must be really dumb running hydraulic lifters, stock rockers, and beehive valve springs on my non-VIN, state of art, factory race cars.......

What type of Hydraulic lifters?
Hell Daren. Your searching now for ways to slow it down to not get a hit.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Terry Cain

What type of Hydraulic lifters?

I am running the full travel Johnson rollers that Chevrolet puts in the motors.

Hell Daren. Your searching now for ways to slow it down to not get a hit.

Absolutely, I read Nitro Joe's Stats. If you look at almost every class, there are plenty of combinations that can out qualify my cars. Why wouldn't I try to protect my investment the same way that the 396/375's, etc. get protected?

The NHRA has me nervous right now. The possibility of someone interpreting what I might have run and penalizing me for it, goes against the spirit of class racing.

If I get myself dinged in a heads-up run or trying to qualify number one, so be it.

[Frank Castros]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

And that's an awful lot of flat tappet motors. What kind of an effect do you think that change will have on the rest of the motor? What else will need to be changed to take advantage of the ability to use more aggressive cam profiles without breaking a lifter or wiping a cam? Not to mention the higher RPM capability.
What we need is a valve spring rule.

When the Cam Duration and Valve Spring rules were changed many years ago that created a Domino effect that changed Stock Eliminator forever.