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Old 10-31-2021, 09:32 PM   #1
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Default Re: Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68

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Doggone it all this digging, I looked at 1961 again:
https://skunkwerkssuperstock.wordpre...thering-storm/

Another small oops, excusable for a Mopar guy I guess:

The 1961 409 was a single 4v, 360hp.

The top 1962 409 was the Beach Boys "4-speed dual quad positraction 409"
"409 409"
The song actually sings 409/409, inches and HP rating.
The 409/409hp-8v was the 1st DUAL quad 409.

In LATE 62, the 63 service parts (heads & cam IIRC) came out that actually made the 409/409-8v effectively a 409/425hp-8v, even though it kept its 409hp rating.

For 63-64, that same engine became the 409/425hp-8v.

So pretty much every 409 car you saw in 1960s class racing was a 1962 car, with a 409/425hp-8v under the hood (but rated at 1962's 409hp) or a 409/400hp-4v under the hood (but rated at 1962's 380hp)

Not as convoluted as all those Mopar combos (ever count how many 383/330hp engines Mopar had?????) but still complicated.

Of course the Beach Boys song features a real 409 soundtrack.

This is fun stuff, glad the Nostalgia Stock section has some life again.
Ive been advised by Raj Reddy who's a Chevy guru that Nicholson ran the dual quad set up, supplied by Chevrolet, at the 61 Nats..before it was commercially available..... hence it was in OS/S , not S/S.

“Mal - They received the dual quad setup and cam August 1961 prior to Indy ‘61 (placing them in OS/S) . Cars ran single four barrel 360 HP at ‘61 Pomona Winternats.“

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Ive been advised by Raj Reddy who's a Chevy guru that Nicholson ran the dual quad set up, supplied by Chevrolet, at the 61 Nats..before it was commercially available..... hence it was in OS/S , not S/S.

“Mal - They received the dual quad setup and cam August 1961 prior to Indy ‘61 (placing them in OS/S) . Cars ran single four barrel 360 HP at ‘61 Pomona Winternats.“
NHRA wisely started OS/S for that reason, too many "trunk & parts counter" combos coming out. The 390/401-6v Ford & 421/373-8v Pontiac got the same treatment, bumped into OS/S.

Very few 409s period were made in 1961, about 160 or so IIRC - let alone a dual quad version. Usually on the street it was the 348 Chevy that met the 390 Ford.

Was Nicholson the OS/S R/U at 61 Indy with that car or dont we know?
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"...Was Nicholson the OS/S R/U at 61 Indy with that car or dont we know?..."

In the Jr. Stock book, on p.14, it says that Proffitt "buried" Dave Strickler's 409...with an astounding 12.55. I suppose that means that Strickler was RU. Not sure. Could have been in an earlier round, I suppose.

One of the books says that Arnie Beswick won S/S. Don't mention the RU. Maybe that's the year Stan Antlocer was RU, in S/S.

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Old 11-01-2021, 03:39 AM   #4
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Default Re: Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68

Guys, just a side. note. - Don’t think I’m being ‘defensive’......

I was taught to explain my rationale...and fix my errors.

Sometimes my errors become a little overwhelming however...and large posts detailing a lot of ‘issues’ create a lot of workload.

That said, I really appreciate the help...just trust my research and point out the glaring errors 😆
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