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Old 10-08-2020, 11:39 AM   #1
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It's interesting when you see Stock Elim.engines for sale that have Stef's oil pan, lightweight crankshaft, etc.listed.
If the parts are in the NHRA Accepted parts list, they are deemed legal.

Also, there are many like myself, that ships their OEM or NHRA approved replacement oil pans to Stef to have them baffled and screened. It is within the parameters of the rule book.

One area that I have seen big violations is in the piston configuration such as thinner ring grooves than those shown in the spec and still the piston has the correct accepted part number.

I was discussing this subject with a well know engine builder that builds some of the fastest engines in the country and he told me that NHRA has told him that he is one of the few engine builders in the country that has pistons with the correct ring grooves and location.
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Old 10-08-2020, 03:03 PM   #2
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If the parts are in the NHRA Accepted parts list, they are deemed legal.

Also, there are many like myself, that ships their OEM or NHRA approved replacement oil pans to Stef to have them baffled and screened. It is within the parameters of the rule book.

One area that I have seen big violations is in the piston configuration such as thinner ring grooves than those shown in the spec and still the piston has the correct accepted part number.

I was discussing this subject with a well know engine builder that builds some of the fastest engines in the country and he told me that NHRA has told him that he is one of the few engine builders in the country that has pistons with the correct ring grooves and location.
Ok, the rulebook is kinda confusing. Says baffles/windage trays acceptable, then "modifications of any kind prohibited". I took that to mean things attached to the block .ie windage trays ok, but no pan mods. One of those gray areas I guess.
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Old 10-08-2020, 05:03 PM   #3
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Ok, the rulebook is kinda confusing. Says baffles/windage trays acceptable, then "modifications of any kind prohibited". I took that to mean things attached to the block .ie windage trays ok, but no pan mods. One of those gray areas I guess.
Clear as mud.
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Old 10-08-2020, 06:33 PM   #4
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This forum made up mostly of active racers continually speak of the sustainability of class racing but on the other hand there there’s cars in competition aren’t in compliance with the rule book or so I’m told. With that be said isn’t time that the racers take responsibility for the future of it all and stop blaming the sanctioning body? I loved Brett Velde’s suggestion of a sponsor that will subsidize the cost of a dedicated technical team. Pursue that great idea and police the questionable characters within your own division. If you see something, say something. Make our sport great again!
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Old 10-08-2020, 06:48 PM   #5
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What's in it for the sponsor?
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Integrity of competition which enhances viability and sustainability of the class racing format, which will exponentially boost and maintain the participant numbers by also and hopefully increasing payouts for the foundation and heritage of drag racing.
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Old 10-08-2020, 07:44 PM   #7
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I know a lot of stock racers and none of them are cheaters. Who are these cheaters?
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Old 10-08-2020, 09:02 PM   #8
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What's in it for the sponsor?
For the love of class racing that has been around for over 50 years and is the true backbone of NHRA. Whoever the sponsor, I'm sure they would profit for the support they're giving the racers. I haven't crunched any numbers, but I bet the $$$ would not be outrageous and I assume the tech guys wouldn't mind some extra $$$. Might even bring some out of retirement for the right price LOL. I think the main hurdle to overcome would be getting NHRA to stand behind the tech officials when they enforce the rules. Just an idea that I've thought about for awhile.



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Old 10-09-2020, 07:45 AM   #9
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So, the sales pitch is that a company is going to profit by putting their logo on the shirts of tech guys that are hired specifically to go after racers that are anonymously accused of cheating? That sounds very promising!

If cars are so obviously wrong and you feel it is ruining class racing, how about pointing out the errors to the racer first? They may not even realize that their car is wrong. If they don't fix things, protest them. The original post doesn't sound like this would even require a tear down. I don't see things that are so obviously wrong taking a lot of time to police. What am I missing?
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I think the main hurdle to overcome would be getting NHRA to stand behind the tech officials when they enforce the rules. Bret Velde
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That right there is the #1 issue.
The #2 issue would be getting the Tech Officials to all agree on the interpretation of an overly vague rule book.
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