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Old 10-08-2020, 09:02 PM   #1
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What's in it for the sponsor?
For the love of class racing that has been around for over 50 years and is the true backbone of NHRA. Whoever the sponsor, I'm sure they would profit for the support they're giving the racers. I haven't crunched any numbers, but I bet the $$$ would not be outrageous and I assume the tech guys wouldn't mind some extra $$$. Might even bring some out of retirement for the right price LOL. I think the main hurdle to overcome would be getting NHRA to stand behind the tech officials when they enforce the rules. Just an idea that I've thought about for awhile.



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Old 10-09-2020, 07:45 AM   #2
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So, the sales pitch is that a company is going to profit by putting their logo on the shirts of tech guys that are hired specifically to go after racers that are anonymously accused of cheating? That sounds very promising!

If cars are so obviously wrong and you feel it is ruining class racing, how about pointing out the errors to the racer first? They may not even realize that their car is wrong. If they don't fix things, protest them. The original post doesn't sound like this would even require a tear down. I don't see things that are so obviously wrong taking a lot of time to police. What am I missing?
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Old 10-09-2020, 09:44 AM   #3
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So what should happen when the class has been refactored by 100hp by people running illegal stuff? I'll tell you what happens... we end up with the same parts prohibited by the rulebook and passed through tech that everyone else runs so we can run competitively. Do they go back to the original factoring and stop the massaging or keep it as is and overlook the obvious?
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Old 10-09-2020, 10:49 AM   #4
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So, the sales pitch is that a company is going to profit by putting their logo on the shirts of tech guys that are hired specifically to go after racers that are anonymously accused of cheating? That sounds very promising!

If cars are so obviously wrong and you feel it is ruining class racing, how about pointing out the errors to the racer first? They may not even realize that their car is wrong. If they don't fix things, protest them. The original post doesn't sound like this would even require a tear down. I don't see things that are so obviously wrong taking a lot of time to police. What am I missing?
Putting logos on shirts of guys that are there to enforce the rules that NHRA puts in the rulebook, like they did years ago, to make a fair playing field for all competitors. That's why we race S/SS. If not, just build bracket cars, it would be whole lot less $$$. The only ones that wouldn't support it would be the cheaters. Why have rules and classes if not enforced? Like I said before it wouldn't be a huge amount $$$ compared to other sponsorships and business owners know you sponsor what you like to support and realize that advertising is an expense of doing business. Ever since my family took me to my first S/SS race in 1969 as a kid I fell love with these classes and it's amazing after over 50 years they still exist and still have a very strong following. Why let the lack of enforcing the rules dilute and ruin such a good thing. Just my $.02





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Old 10-09-2020, 08:35 AM   #5
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I think the main hurdle to overcome would be getting NHRA to stand behind the tech officials when they enforce the rules. Bret Velde
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That right there is the #1 issue.
The #2 issue would be getting the Tech Officials to all agree on the interpretation of an overly vague rule book.
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And the guy accuses people of Obvious cheating. Races .... a Pacer
Really ?So Captain obvious what do you see
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And the guy accuses people of Obvious cheating. Races .... a Pacer
James, Not so obvious to me..What am I missing?
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And the guy accuses people of Obvious cheating. Races .... a Pacer
Really ?So Captain obvious what do you see
I'll give you an example, a few years back a friend of mine was proudly showing me his cylinder heads that he'd payed big bucks to have done by a "professional". The crossover passages were filled right into the port and the area had been nicely blended in to look like the crossover never existed. Legal? Not if you read the rulebook but I know some racers that never do. Deliberately cheating, probably not.

As far as my Pacer goes, if you want to see inside the engine I'll tear it apart just for you any time you want.

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That right there is the #1 issue.
The #2 issue would be getting the Tech Officials to all agree on the interpretation of an overly vague rule book.
Billy you're 100% correct, there will always be gray areas, I just think if the racers knew there was more of chance of getting looked at, it might tighten up the ones that might stray from the rules. And while they're being looked at, it gives the other racers time and opportunity to help keep people within the rules. I remember being torn at Indy and my competitor, who I had beaten followed my every move thru tear down and darn near inspected every part. Travis even asked me if I was okay letting him do that, I said sure, I got nothing to hide, but it sure makes you think twice about doing something outside the rules when one of your competitors looks at your stuff.



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