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Old 12-28-2019, 04:43 AM   #1
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Default Re: Out of the loop in superstock....

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A very well respected local racer made reference to a fluid dump in a superstock transmission. I realize I am out of the loop but....what exactly is this ? ?
Hughe has a pretty good tutorial on Youtube. Also called a Converter dump valve.
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Old 12-28-2019, 06:58 AM   #2
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Actually Mr. Cour, this is another one of those things we have been told not to do.....just like the head modifications I showed you the emails of. Like I said.....different rules for different divisions.

I can't knowingly do something that is it illegal and expect to be able to throw a fit and get away with it. That's just not the way I roll.

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Old 12-28-2019, 09:16 AM   #3
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Actually Mr. Cour, this is another one of those things we have been told not to do.....just like the head modifications I showed you the emails of. Like I said.....different rules for different divisions.

I can't knowingly do something that is it illegal and expect to be able to throw a fit and get away with it. That's just not the way I roll.

Joey, so colluding with a sanctioning body, to oust a mod that has been stamped legal for years, just to feel good about your inability to innovate, is suppose to make you feel good?

Strange way of doing business, don't you think?
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Old 12-28-2019, 01:44 PM   #4
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I don't see much need for it on most Super Stock cars.
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Old 12-28-2019, 02:03 PM   #5
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Default Re: Out of the loop in superstock....

Where in the rulebook does it state that a converter dump valve is illegal?
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Old 12-28-2019, 02:46 PM   #6
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Where in the rulebook does it state that a converter dump valve is illegal?
I'll answer that one, because it was answered to me. If the rulebook does not say you CAN do it, then you CAN'T.
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Old 12-28-2019, 03:10 PM   #7
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Lol....the word innovation is sure getting used a lot in place of cheating.
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Old 12-28-2019, 03:34 PM   #8
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I'll answer that one, because it was answered to me. If the rulebook does not say you CAN do it, then you CAN'T.
So with that logic, and just keeping it related to the transmission: We all have to remove our straight-cut/different than OEM ratio gearsets, take out our roller bearings and go back to bushings, remove our low volume front pump and put a stock one back on, make sure we run the correct number of clutches and steels that the OEM trans had, remove the aluminum drums and put the cast iron OEM ones back in etc etc etc ?
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And since we are at it.

Gas Ported pistons
Aftermarkets Cranks
Honda Journals
Chamber Mods

It all started in the same place, cheating is not innovation......its cheating no matter what his minions call it.

And as far as Jeff, hell yeah he did the right thing. He has customers spending 10s of thousands trying to run with people that hasn't ever been able to follow a rulebook. It came right out of your own mouth that you wouldn't ask permission.....well that sir doesn't make it right and it damn sure doesn't give you all the right to stop your feet when you get called out on it.

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Old 12-28-2019, 04:33 PM   #10
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And since we are at it.

Gas Ported pistons
Aftermarkets Cranks
Honda Journals
Chamber Mods

It all started in the same place, cheating is not innovation......its cheating no matter what his minions call it.

And as far as Jeff, hell yeah he did the right thing. He has customers spending 10s of thousands trying to run with people that hasn't ever been able to follow a rulebook. It came right out of your own mouth that you wouldn't ask permission.....well that sir doesn't make it right and it damn sure doesn't give you all the right to stop your feet when you get called out on it.
I’m am literally LMAO! You’re stomping your feet right now. The rule book gets updated every time Jeff and the D3 posse cry to NHRA.
Jeff has been caught cheating numerous times....delay boxes, bigger cic than claiming, so your point is.....well.....laughable!
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