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Old 11-03-2017, 11:35 AM   #1
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[QUOTE=SS3718;549006]Michael,
Some of the bracket races I've watched here lately doesn't appear to have any rules when it comes to safety....helmet mandatory, everything else is optional. It's not my style but it also doesn't directly impact me!

If you want the simplest rule when it comes to safety....everyone should wear the same thing and have the same requirements. After all, your 10.50 car is running against 8.50 cars going 160+.

Nick[/QUOTE

Agree on both points. I know of some late model street driven Corvettes, one that runs low 11's and another running low 10's that have done so with just a seat belt and helmet.
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Old 11-05-2017, 01:21 PM   #2
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Ok . So what do some of you guys run now on 350 & 400 for shields and did you have floor pan clearance issues ? My friends superstreet car runs a shield on its powerglide... I can the trans blanket is the cheap way out and it would be so dirty after 2 years its trash any how , plus no floor pan issues .......The rule didn't say auto trans only just 10;99 ! Are the stick cases sfi ? Like the ATI TH400,s on the new factory cars .
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Old 11-07-2017, 07:22 PM   #3
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OMG.... how do you think they do tech at bracket races? Go through tech: "How fast do you run?" "10.50's" "OK, you need XYZ." This is NOT hard.

And YES, the tech guys already watch E.T.'s. A friend has always wanted to run a 9.99 just once with his Stocker, but doesn't have a full cage. He was specifically told there would be no grace period. One 9.99 and he was out of the event.


Again, the idea that one car running 10.80's requires far more stringent safety standards than an identical car running 10.00 is ludicrous. It also creates a potentially massive problem with insurance. What happens when a 10-oh car wrecks with a roll bar, -1 suit, etc., and the insurance company says, "Why didn't this car and driver meet the same safety standards as this other car that's much slower, but requires a full cage, -5 suit, competition license, ad infinitum?"
Somebody want to clarify this for me? Are you talking about 2 of the exact same car having the differences listed or are you comparing a something like 2014 COPO Camaro to a 1970 Nova, for example?


If it's the latter, or anything similar, the reason should be obvious One is built with better safety standards, characteristics, and features built into the car and they're taking that into account, it would seem. Is it right? I have no idea. I'm no engineer or crash expert or anything else like that lol.

If you're comparing 2 of the same car then I don't have any ideas. Sorry.
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Old 11-07-2017, 09:00 PM   #4
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Somebody want to clarify this for me? Are you talking about 2 of the exact same car having the differences listed or are you comparing a something like 2014 COPO Camaro to a 1970 Nova, for example?


If it's the latter, or anything similar, the reason should be obvious One is built with better safety standards, characteristics, and features built into the car and they're taking that into account, it would seem. Is it right? I have no idea. I'm no engineer or crash expert or anything else like that lol.

If you're comparing 2 of the same car then I don't have any ideas. Sorry.
275hp carbureted 360 in my Volare in SS/GT can run 10.00 with a roll bar, -1 suit, etc.
275hp EFI 360 in my Volare, FGT requires full cage, -5 suit, etc... all of the 9.99-quicker requirements but at ANY E.T.
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Old 11-03-2017, 10:03 AM   #5
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Elegal shift is done? Or the shifter can't be electric controlled? Air shifters were allowed in stock? Big rule change here that needs some elaboration.

There was talk of air and electric shifters being used in stockers stretching the rule so there is a decision made on that.

The new rule does state OEM Electronic Shift. How do you interpret it?

Electronic rpm controls for the electric (internal or external to the transmission) shifting of OEM electric shift automatic transmissions permitted in computer controlled vehicles only.


My assumption is Mr. Forte will have some input on this.



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There was talk of air and electric shifters being used in stockers stretching the rule so there is a decision made on that.

The new rule does state OEM Electronic Shift. How do you interpret it?

Electronic rpm controls for the electric (internal or external to the transmission) shifting of OEM electric shift automatic transmissions permitted in computer controlled vehicles only.


My assumption is Mr. Forte will have some input on this.



This maybe a problem because there is no such thing as a 200-e , or a 350-e , or a 400-e . Which means to me that the only OEM electric shift transmissions that would be eligible for this rule would be a 4L60-e , 4T80-e , or any of the GM automatic transmissions built after 1993 . The way the rule is written , would be more restrictive , and eliminate an e-shift 200 .
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This maybe a problem because there is no such thing as a 200-e , or a 350-e , or a 400-e . Which means to me that the only OEM electric shift transmissions that would be eligible for this rule would be a 4L60-e , 4T80-e , or any of the GM automatic transmissions built after 1993 . The way the rule is written , would be more restrictive , and eliminate an e-shift 200 .
Final straw for some??
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