Stk/super stock combo June 17 5000 to win

[novassdude]

Originally Posted by Nitro Joe Jackson

he never did any races last year, the promoter is Jack Porter, the trails event earlier this year was his first, we got 55 cars, this race at D42 we are letting in the NSS to help the car count, see what happens and yes there is never a good clean date for races it seems like, Hope we get a good turnout and great weather and good luck to all that goes to either Cayuga event or D2 or event the Midwest event going on this weekend.
btw, D42 sat schedule is, gates open at 9am, tt's at 11 and eliminations at 4

My guess the guys that run stock and super-stock for the purity and performance of the class will be at Cayuga. The ones that are more bracket racers with a class car may attend this race. Lets face it that is what this race really is. A bracket race with class cars. Or qualifying would be based on performance and the latter and any bye would be based on performance. Plus there would be heads up for same classed cars.

It is a good payout to entry. Best of luck to every one that goes to any of the options.

[Jeff Niceswanger]

Originally Posted by novassdude

My guess the guys that run stock and super-stock for the purity and performance of the class will be at Cayuga. The ones that are more bracket racers with a class car may attend this race. Lets face it that is what this race really is. A bracket race with class cars. Or qualifying would be based on performance and the latter and any bye would be based on performance. Plus there would be heads up for same classed cars.

It is a good payout to entry. Best of luck to every one that goes to any of the options.

Or it's just too good, not to go .This is a killer deal for the money . I wish they would do the traditional Heads- Up's as you speak of ,but as Joe says...it is, what it is . I'm sure the new 42 has working scales, and as far as I'm concerned, run what ever damn fuel you want, at least it would be a true class race .. But that is my opinion .

[Jon Sarrett]

Originally Posted by novassdude

My guess the guys that run stock and super-stock for the purity and performance of the class will be at Cayuga. The ones that are more bracket racers with a class car may attend this race. Lets face it that is what this race really is. A bracket race with class cars. Or qualifying would be based on performance and the latter and any bye would be based on performance. Plus there would be heads up for same classed cars.

It is a good payout to entry. Best of luck to every one that goes to any of the options.

Wow that's a pretty heavy handed opinion you've got there and I can say you're not even in the same park, hell, you're not even in the same sport! I live 13 miles from 42 and 27 away from Norwalk. I will be running the event at 42 this weekend and also the nationals the following week. I cannot take the time off work to drive to Toronto nor can I justify the expenditure when I can race for $5k for a hundred bucks less than 30 minutes away from me. With that said, which one will you be attending this weekend? When was the last time you've had a heads up race? Will I see you in stock or super stock next week at Norwalk? I see 3 N's in your upcoming response...neither, none, no.

[Hacksaw]

The bummer is the scheduling, bottom line. I will be at Toronto and Norwalk entered in SS. Oh, I will also get a much needed grade point.

[Jeff Niceswanger]

Originally Posted by Jon Sarrett

Wow that's a pretty heavy handed opinion you've got there and I can say you're not even in the same park, hell, you're not even in the same sport! I live 13 miles from 42 and 27 away from Norwalk. I will be running the event at 42 this weekend and also the nationals the following week. I cannot take the time off work to drive to Toronto nor can I justify the expenditure when I can race for $5k for a hundred bucks less than 30 minutes away from me. With that said, which one will you be attending this weekend? When was the last time you've had a heads up race? Will I see you in stock or super stock next week at Norwalk? I see 3 N's in your upcoming response...neither, none, no.

If Joe keeps the classes separated as he usually does ( until the end) and there is a strong car count, there will be strong chances of some heads up runs .. At the Dave Layer Memorial that Rodger Keeling put on down to the now defunked Kanawa Valley a couple years ago ...The Final was a Heads-Up race . De-De Layer was adamant that it was going to be Heads -Up ... And it was .. No scales, No Fuel check ... The finalist were pitted right across from one another, so it was a little easier ... But when there a will ...there's a way

[novassdude]

Originally Posted by Jon Sarrett

Wow that's a pretty heavy handed opinion you've got there and I can say you're not even in the same park, hell, you're not even in the same sport! I live 13 miles from 42 and 27 away from Norwalk. I will be running the event at 42 this weekend and also the nationals the following week. I cannot take the time off work to drive to Toronto nor can I justify the expenditure when I can race for $5k for a hundred bucks less than 30 minutes away from me. With that said, which one will you be attending this weekend? When was the last time you've had a heads up race? Will I see you in stock or super stock next week at Norwalk? I see 3 N's in your upcoming response...neither, none, no.

You are correct I won’t be at any of them. I have had heads up races (got my arse handed to me) But that doesn’t mean I can’t have an opinion. I feel there are three different kinds of racers in stock/super-stock. All I was pointing out was what type of racers I thought would be going where.

1 The guy that is all about the performance, all they care about is winning class and going fast. These guys probably don’t go to many local combos.

2. The purist that believes in the sanctity of class racing. And likes the restricted rules and competing against like cars. They only go to races/combos that follow the spirit of the class. Where performance matters and heads up races are included. That follow a ladder based on qualifying. Odds are they would go to a national open over this type of race even if they had to drive by this race to get there.

3. The guy that is there for eliminations and doesn’t necessarily worry too much on the performance side. Or purity of the class. They most likely decide where to go based more on the payout. They are probably a great driver and run plenty of bracket races when not racing class. These are the guys that will gladly run this race. And would probably drive by the national open to get to this race. I couldn’t blame them. Great payout for the entry fee.

What I don’t get with this race is why they are using RT for pairing and deciding any buy run. They are using the rules for a bracket race not a class race. It looks like Nitro is helping with this race he knows what he is doing as far as setting up ladders and running a class race. If they got the same 55 cars it would be 100 less than what they paired up when he helped at the US class nationals. This would be a piece of cake for him.

[Nitro Joe Jackson]

Becuse with NSS cars in the mix there is no real set indexes for them plus a guy that normally runs let's say H/SA could run a lower class with not running scales it could be 2 seconds under deal so using RT's is much easier. , I do it cause I enjoy doing it

[Bill MacDonald]

Originally Posted by Jon Sarrett

Wow that's a pretty heavy handed opinion you've got there and I can say you're not even in the same park, hell, you're not even in the same sport! I live 13 miles from 42 and 27 away from Norwalk. I will be running the event at 42 this weekend and also the nationals the following week. I cannot take the time off work to drive to Toronto nor can I justify the expenditure when I can race for $5k for a hundred bucks less than 30 minutes away from me. With that said, which one will you be attending this weekend? When was the last time you've had a heads up race? Will I see you in stock or super stock next week at Norwalk? I see 3 N's in your upcoming response...neither, none, no.

Jon sarrett , can you pm me bpmacdonald@bell.net. Thanks Jon

[ssracer3821]

Well novassdude - to quote a well known superstock racer and good friend of ours "if your name ain't on the qualifying sheet your opinion don't mean s**t)" This race is gonna be a really good time!