Heads up runs in Stock & Super Stock

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Tony Janes

Proof that Stock and Super Stock are not really performance eliminators any more. I have said for several years that they are simply expensive bracket races and I have no problem with that.

Unfortunately, Tony is correct. The stock eliminator that I so loved in 1980 has morphed into.....Bracket 2 Non Delay.....and it's a Damn shame.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Unfortunately, Tony is correct. The stock eliminator that I so loved in 1980 has morphed into.....Bracket 2 Non Delay.....and it's a Damn shame.

I liked it better in the '60s when we ran off records. The faster cars had an advantage, which I personally believe they should. Work your tail off to be faster should be worth something. ET brackets came along, and the slow guys went there. Car counts dropped dramatically. They pushed the easy button. Not everybody could run their class records. I won Stock at the one & only race at Corpus Christie (sp?) Texas, running a tenth off the record. I was the fast car there that afternoon.

When I started trying to do this again a few years ago, some of those guys are back.

It is way too much like a bracket race now.

[Eric Bell]

• Make it a performance based class like it started out being. Not sure what the answer is...entice us to run our cars hard.
• $$$$ for #1 qualifier.
• $$$$ for setting a record and/or points.
• Put sticks and autos together.
• Put the new cars back into the regular classes. Have to factor them right though.
• If you hit the trigger 3 times in a period it's a hit (certain %) even if your average is below .85 under. If you hit it 4 times the % goes up and so on and so on.
• Take .5 off the indexes
• I love the idea of no AHFS in qualifying but not sure that would ever happen.

I can't wait to put a Hemi in mine.....I can run it hard but only go .80 under.......well lets hope.

[Bob Mulry]

How can you have heads-up runs at a National Event (LV1) when NHRA stupidly sets a quota at 70 cars in Stock and this a race that has class run offs.

As I stated before this averages out to 1/2 car per class and people seem surprised by the lack of heads-up runs.....................

Bob

PS:

And I never ducked a heads-up race....

I got my *** kicked and made the car faster...

Remember when the 1st round of Stock or Super Stock had a bunch of cars that couldn't run the index...

So much for performance..

It's NHRA's plan not mine to eliminate Heads-Up runs...


PPS:
Thanks for the asterisks I got carried away

[Dan Fahey]

I agree too many classes...
My suggestion.
Standardize on the A-Z Stock or SS class weight breaks/
Put GT, Pure Stock, Truck, Crate...Under one of the S or SS Indexes.
Still have to fit their respective rules!
Going to be a few adjustments..but it will get sorted out.
My F/PS would fit close to the Q/SA Class.

Dan

[Tony Janes]

All these ideas have been hashed out many times before. None of it is going to happen.

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by Tony Janes

All these ideas have been hashed out many times before. None of it is going to happen.

You are right!
If we don't do anything but talk about it.
Problem with ideas you have to hash out which one we want!
D

[SSDA Hemi]

Originally Posted by eric bell

• make it a performance based class like it started out being. Not sure what the answer is...entice us to run our cars hard.
• $$$$ for #1 qualifier.
• $$$$ for setting a record and/or points.
• put sticks and autos together.
• put the new cars back into the regular classes. Have to factor them right though.
• if you hit the trigger 3 times in a period it's a hit (certain %) even if your average is below .85 under. If you hit it 4 times the % goes up and so on and so on.
• take .5 off the indexes
• i love the idea of no ahfs in qualifying but not sure that would ever happen.

X2!! Its a performance based class, lets keep it that way!!

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Eric Bell

• Make it a performance based class like it started out being. Not sure what the answer is...entice us to run our cars hard.
• $$$$ for #1 qualifier.
• $$$$ for setting a record and/or points.
• Put sticks and autos together.
• Put the new cars back into the regular classes. Have to factor them right though.
• If you hit the trigger 3 times in a period it's a hit (certain %) even if your average is below .85 under. If you hit it 4 times the % goes up and so on and so on.
• Take .5 off the indexes
• I love the idea of no AHFS in qualifying but not sure that would ever happen.

I can't wait to put a Hemi in mine.....I can run it hard but only go .80 under.......well lets hope.

Ya know, you should start with something easy like world peace.
When you're done with that, I'm gonna hop a UFO and have lunch with Elvis, if you'd like to come.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Ya know, you should start with something easy like world peace.
When you're done with that, I'm gonna hop a UFO and have lunch with Elvis, if you'd like to come.

LMAO! I like Billy Nees.