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Old 12-04-2015, 02:20 PM   #1
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Default Re: '70-'73 Camaro Rally Sport front end

Having had a 70 1/2 Camaro RS/SS, I think the these(Stock/SS) cars should race with the correct parts on them.
Yes, this is one of my pet peeves and also, apparently I am old.....
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Old 12-04-2015, 02:28 PM   #2
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If we go down this road, Stock is going to end up looking like Super Stock. Oh wait, it already does. Never mind...
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Old 12-04-2015, 04:52 PM   #3
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Having had a 70 1/2 Camaro RS/SS, I think the these(Stock/SS) cars should race with the correct parts on them.
Yes, this is one of my pet peeves and also, apparently I am old.....
SO super stock should cost more than stock - pony up and spend the money for non-performance oriented accessories - I am afraid that is no longer true any more

IMHO

Another two months of these sort of meaningless threads - then back to racing and discussing performance advantages.

Sorry - I just think it is funny when we get into the winter doldrums.

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SO super stock should cost more than stock - pony up and spend the money for non-performance oriented accessories - I am afraid that is no longer true any more

IMHO

Another two months of these sort of meaningless threads - then back to racing and discussing performance advantages.

Sorry - I just think it is funny when we get into the winter doldrums.

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Except that diligence to retain factory produced accuracy is one of the major factors that has sustained the value and credibility of Stock Eliminator for close to 60 years. If you throw that to the wayside as "meaningless", then you will erode the identity of the eliminator significantly. And that's not an opinion, it is truth.
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Old 12-05-2015, 10:49 AM   #5
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At first glance,this thread appeared to be a by product of end-of-season malaise and boredom, but it does bring up some interesting points.What if you had a car with some small exterior errors,such as a '72 Chevelle with '71 parking light lenses and bezels,otherwise it's completely legit,you went 1500 miles to a national event only to have a tech official not pass it over that? That could be an aggravating circumstance at best. As long as the car is correct as far as the generic appearance and the year,make,and model claimed,the combo is legit,and the weight is correct as it passes over the scales, there should be no problem. All efforts to make it legitimately correct should be made.If it's a '69 Nova,it should look like one. On another current thread, the discussion came up as to openly discussing illegal weight reduction of body parts,illegal modification of the body itself,etc,and whether openly advertising this kind of thing is wise. Tech officials read these discussions,they basically know who is legit or not, and they probably don't appreciate confronting every incident where somebody deliberately is trying to fudge on the rules.They already allow us some pretty good breaks,after all, you could have been one of those folks with a 69 Camaro 255/285 horse car with the SS hood a few years ago. So many of those cars were around with the SS hood for so long that many were probably bought and sold like that with no intent to cheat anybody or anything. It would be wise, however not to advertise the ways people push the rules.No sense waving a red flag in front of a bull.
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Old 12-05-2015, 03:15 PM   #6
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Didn't someone get sent home from Indy this year for a incorrect grille? I thought I read or heard that somewhere.
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Didn't someone get sent home from Indy this year for a incorrect grille? I thought I read or heard that somewhere.
There was a Firebird owner that failed tech, but it was because he claimed a year that came with the heavier energy absorbing parts behind the front bumper. He claimed that year so he could run the larger and better factored engine. The problem was he used an earlier Firebird that did not come with all the heavy energy absorbing parts. And yes the grille was also incorrect.

All this was discussed on here a few months ago.
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Old 12-05-2015, 08:36 PM   #8
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Cool Re: '70-'73 Camaro Rally Sport front end

Thanks for the complement,Ron.Why were you surprised?You're right. After the end of the season,the level of communication on these threads does seem to wander from its usual level. When we get bored, we do tend to sound like it.
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Old 12-05-2015, 05:26 PM   #9
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At first glance,this thread appeared to be a by product of end-of-season malaise and boredom, but it does bring up some interesting points.What if you had a car with some small exterior errors,such as a '72 Chevelle with '71 parking light lenses and bezels,otherwise it's completely legit,you went 1500 miles to a national event only to have a tech official not pass it over that? That could be an aggravating circumstance at best. As long as the car is correct as far as the generic appearance and the year,make,and model claimed,the combo is legit,and the weight is correct as it passes over the scales, there should be no problem. All efforts to make it legitimately correct should be made.If it's a '69 Nova,it should look like one. On another current thread, the discussion came up as to openly discussing illegal weight reduction of body parts,illegal modification of the body itself,etc,and whether openly advertising this kind of thing is wise. Tech officials read these discussions,they basically know who is legit or not, and they probably don't appreciate confronting every incident where somebody deliberately is trying to fudge on the rules.They already allow us some pretty good breaks,after all, you could have been one of those folks with a 69 Camaro 255/285 horse car with the SS hood a few years ago. So many of those cars were around with the SS hood for so long that many were probably bought and sold like that with no intent to cheat anybody or anything. It would be wise, however not to advertise the ways people push the rules.No sense waving a red flag in front of a bull.
Greg - very good post man .. I am surprised .. These experts have no idea what is legal on the new cars (last eight years) because they have not had forty years to figure it out and have never owned one.

The rules of NHRA stock eliminator have changed constantly - some have not noticed - various heads, manifolds, valve spring, transmissions, etc and other performance oriented things do not upset them as much as an in correct tail light.

Some things (people) never change.

Next year it will be new - old things.

Oh well it is winter and I am bored - so you purest fire away - it gives me an occasional minute of joy.

This is drag racing not world peace.

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