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Old 01-22-2014, 12:35 PM   #1
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Default How to Books Is there one for Stock or Super Stock?

Hello All

I know this is probably a touchy question.

With all the "top secert speed secerts" that are out there.

But, with that said is there any How to Books on building a Stock or Super Stock Type motor availible on the market?

I have recently started looking into Super Stock type racing.
I have heard of porting heads, welding up heads, aftermarket heads, 50 MM cams,
Roller Cams, Jessel Rockers ect ect ect...

I'm not saying I'm even gonna try to build a motor of my own, but it sure would be nice to be able to read what can and can't be done. What parts to use or not use.

Almost sounds like Modified Production
Sure do miss that class

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Old 01-22-2014, 01:25 PM   #2
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Hello All

I know this is probably a touchy question.

With all the "top secert speed secerts" that are out there.

But, with that said is there any How to Books on building a Stock or Super Stock Type motor availible on the market?

I have recently started looking into Super Stock type racing.
I have heard of porting heads, welding up heads, aftermarket heads, 50 MM cams,
Roller Cams, Jessel Rockers ect ect ect...

I'm not saying I'm even gonna try to build a motor of my own, but it sure would be nice to be able to read what can and can't be done. What parts to use or not use.

Almost sounds like Modified Production
Sure do miss that class

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Stop in and see Jim Morgan. He's in Bel Alton. 301 934-3478. Be prepared to SPEND $$$$$$$$$$$$$ on heads and parts if you go the S/S route.. Talk to Jim and he will steer you in the right direction. He is one of the best.
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Old 01-22-2014, 03:54 PM   #3
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Stop in and see Jim Morgan. He's in Bel Alton. 301 934-3478. Be prepared to SPEND $$$$$$$$$$$$$ on heads and parts if you go the S/S route.. Talk to Jim and he will steer you in the right direction. He is one of the best.
Hello Terri
I know Jim, and I'm sure he will help me if I need a motor built.
Probably even has most of the parts laying around his garage.

I have been offered a few motors from different guys.

But I would just like to have a little knowledge of whats there talking about.
And a basic idea of parts that are needed in today world of Super Stock.

So are there any Super Stock guys out there getting ready to retire that need a new project.
WRITE A BOOK LOL

Have a GREAT Day

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Old 01-22-2014, 09:22 PM   #4
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Things change so quickly that by the time the book went into print it would be obsolete information.
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find somebody to go with and help them
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Pick a class like A,B,orC stock, Port heads for max flow then acid the ports to cover up grind marks, angle mill ex ports. Move guides and seats for better flow. Buy a set of custom pistons move pin up in them, cut the hell out of the deck to get deck hight right, re stamp pistons with correct #. Now go to indy MAYBE be one of the fastest in the class, go to tear down and you will find a lot of authors for you book.LOL!!!!
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Pick a class like A,B,orC stock, Port heads for max flow then acid the ports to cover up grind marks, angle mill ex ports. Move guides and seats for better flow. Buy a set of custom pistons move pin up in them, cut the hell out of the deck to get deck hight right, re stamp pistons with correct #. Now go to indy MAYBE be one of the fastest in the class, go to tear down and you will find a lot of authors for you book.LOL!!!!
I like this one,
I once heard a story of a guy with a 69 Camaro SS/DA car that went to tear down with a cooler of Ice. He pulled the head off the car to be CCed and dropped the head in the cooler of ice .After 15 minutes pulled it out of the cooler and said pour it now befor it warms up again.
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I like this one,
I once heard a story of a guy with a 69 Camaro SS/DA car that went to tear down with a cooler of Ice. He pulled the head off the car to be CCed and dropped the head in the cooler of ice .After 15 minutes pulled it out of the cooler and said pour it now befor it warms up again.
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But that's not uncommon, it's not cheating and it makes sense. If the combustion chamber is very close to spec, you run the risk of coming up small during teardown if you measure it when the head is very warm. The alcohol expands when heated so not as much will fill the chamber during measurement. You are smart to get the head back to the same general temp it was when it was checked in your shop.
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Years ago Dempsy Hardy's stocker GTO Judge was DQd @ Indy for class because he didn't know that trick. They were a little anal back then, a friends Cobrajet Mustang stocker was DQd for class @ Indy for having 1 TRW pushrod accidently mixed in with the stock 15. Now there's a real performance advantage for you
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The best book I found is The Big Block MOPAR workbench #SA197,auther Arvid Svendsen,plus others,great help by all ,this book will keep you on the toilet,it is very seldom you find anything on stock or super stock.All the tricks and how to's are at your finger tips.This book helped me to go under the index, best $25.00 I ever spent.Thanks to all ,my 383 flys.Rich Freitag
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