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Old 12-24-2013, 10:38 AM   #121
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Kinda surprised they even keep an eliminator for fifteen total cars nationally and a max of eight cars, as low as four cars showing up for a race. I could not see many people wanting to run one, that is even fewer than I would have expected. You should really be thankful they have not just done away with it. IHRA is really trying.
BTW we don't run in a separate eliminator
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Old 12-24-2013, 10:58 AM   #122
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I would like rules left, but where do you come up with specs for post 86 cars? duration,overlap,spring pressure has been left out of NHRA specs since 86 and that is what IHRA uses.
I have a lot of time in making my car work like it is,but if this rule sticks,my springs will definately be changed and most likely cam will be changed too,then whatever changes car needs afterwards.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:33 AM   #123
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My calculation,19 different Pure Stockers raced in 2013.
Total 43 pictures are posted on the Pure Stock Photo Gallery.

Recently added Phil Baldiccino's A/PS Max Wedge Corbitt Marshburn's B/PS 95 Camaro, Bob Davenports G/PS 96 Caprice.
Need to find Corbitt's G/PS Caprice SS Wagon he sold.
Brent Darroch raced his D/PS Camaro at Mason Dixon in November.
There are more PS racers out there and want their pictures.

I get emails from racers with questions building Pure Stockers.
Helped a racer get his new 2013 V6 Mustang classified.
Now that Classification Guides are updated this will improve the Class.

A little marketing more racers will take a crack at Class Racing.
It is a cost effective class to build and maintain.

If somehow Imports are added the whole class will grow faster.
My estimate in 2014 there will be about 25 Pure Stockers racing.

Will do my best to improve these numbers.

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Old 12-24-2013, 11:58 AM   #124
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Not considering the springs issue. I don't see any additional cost between a cam under the new rules and a Bullet cam for today's rule.
Then you may want to open your eyes so you can see better.

With the new cam and spring rules you will see way more cost involved (assuming you want to maximize the performance that come with the new cam). You now need new springs the cheap stock replacement ones will not cut it (read more expensive springs) Now that you have much more spring pressure you will probably need different lifters to handle the extra pressure. (once again read more expensive). Now with all that changed you will need to get a different converter and can probably use a rear gear swap also to maximize all the other changes ( guess what more money out the door again).
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Old 12-24-2013, 12:15 PM   #125
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Question for you guys. How many pure stockers made a run in IHRA in 2013? You all sound like this is the end of the world. Are the indexes changing? If not use your cam you are running now.
This is the best reply to the whole thread.IF there is a rule change,you are not FORCED to do anything.
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Old 12-24-2013, 12:36 PM   #126
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This is the best reply to the whole thread.IF there is a rule change,you are not FORCED to do anything.
Well yes you will have to comply to remain competitive.
Everyone did when they changed the rules for Stock.
Think this would not be any different? More money expense, read Novassdude's posting.
Considering the ROI, drop in Purses and Contingencies it is tough to run a full Stocker today.

The new rules will kill PS ! Like TarHeal, would rather run Brackets.
I like racing real Streetable cars, like Stock was intended to be.

There has been an ill intent coming from racers wanting to kill Pure Stock.
Received dirging comments in the past saying it is not real Stock.
Well, here is your golden opportunity to kill PS. If it happens I am gone.

Despite their ire, there is a growing interest in Pure Stock.
If it is going to survive I will be here to improve our lot.

However we need other advocates to speak up.
Cannot do this alone..

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Old 12-24-2013, 12:49 PM   #127
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Well yes you will have to comply to remain competitive.
Everyone did when they changed the rules for Stock.
Think this would not be any different? More money expense, read Novassdude's posting.
Considering the ROI, drop in Purses and Contingencies it is tough to run a full Stocker today.

The new rules will kill PS ! Like TarHeal, would rather run Brackets.
I like racing real Streetable cars, like Stock was intended to be.

There has been an ill intent coming from racers wanting to kill Pure Stock.
Received dirging comments in the past saying it is not real Stock.
Well, here is your golden opportunity to kill PS. If it happens I am gone.

Despite their ire, there is a growing interest in Pure Stock.
If it is going to survive I will be here to improve our lot.

However we need other advocates to speak up.
Cannot do this alone..

D
To remain competitive I assume you mean heads up races. How many of those in pure stock this year? I would guess there are ways to avoid that. Change class, qualifieing position?
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Old 12-24-2013, 12:55 PM   #128
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Well yes you will have to comply to remain competitive.
Everyone did when they changed the rules for Stock.
Think this would not be any different? More money expense, read Novassdude's posting.
Considering the ROI, drop in Purses and Contingencies it is tough to run a full Stocker today.

The new rules will kill PS ! Like TarHeal, would rather run Brackets.
I like racing real Streetable cars, like Stock was intended to be.

There has been an ill intent coming from racers wanting to kill Pure Stock.
Received dirging comments in the past saying it is not real Stock.
Well, here is your golden opportunity to kill PS. If it happens I am gone.

Despite their ire, there is a growing interest in Pure Stock.
If it is going to survive I will be here to improve our lot.

However we need other advocates to speak up.
Cannot do this alone..

D
It doesn't matter if it is Pure Stock,Super Stock,Stock or whatever.

If you bring a knife to a gunfight,you most likely are going to lose in a heads up race.
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Old 12-24-2013, 01:17 PM   #129
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It doesn't matter if it is Pure Stock,Super Stock,Stock or whatever.

If you bring a knife to a gunfight,you most likely are going to lose in a heads up race.
442Olds your rule is incorrect..
First rule you never go into a Gun Fight without a KNIFE!!
Once the bullets are spent everything is up close and personal.

Harry:
Almost happened to me. Looking forward to the challenge!
Is that not what racing really is? To win the Challenge?

Dan

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Old 12-24-2013, 01:28 PM   #130
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Kinda surprised they even keep an eliminator for fifteen total cars nationally and a max of eight cars, as low as four cars showing up for a race. I could not see many people wanting to run one, that is even fewer than I would have expected. You should really be thankful they have not just done away with it. IHRA is really trying.
There are few FWD cars, so let's do away with those too. Oh, and Super Stock trucks, SS/*X classes, and Hemi cars. Not many of those, so we should do away with them. There aren't many AMC's and they haven't been made in years anyway, so why let people run them? And six-cylinder cars, c'mon! Isn't racing about going fast?

Yes, it's *that* ridiculous. People are actually promoting the sport and building cars. Positive support is a GOOD thing. All the downplaying is completely bizarre.
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