HP Adjustments - New Combo's Added - Page 2

kdanner · 12-19-2013, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperCarFan

On www.nhraracer.com, I did not see the 2014 info for the Camaro or Ford. Where are you guys seeing the ratings? Thanks.

Ford:
http://www.nhra.net/tech_specs/class...s/2014FORD.xls
http://www.nhra.net/tech_specs/engin...ts/FORD-14.rtf

kdanner · 12-19-2013, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kdanner

One 2014 302 combo is 350hp in some places yet 330 in others, and the head casting numbers for it don't agree with the given valve size.

Well this got partially corrected already, it's now the same HP as the 2013. Valve size still needs fixed.

Shipping weight was raised compared to 13, so the 14 can fit in C, or even D if a stick.

SuperCarFan · 12-19-2013, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kdanner

Ford:
http://www.nhra.net/tech_specs/class...s/2014FORD.xls
http://www.nhra.net/tech_specs/engin...ts/FORD-14.rtf

Thanks. Guess the www.nhraracer.com links are older.

Tom Moock · 12-19-2013, 08:42 PM

1964-1966 Chevy Chevelle HP change in the guide from 220 to 217 in SS as of 1-1-14, but not listed in the new adjustments just released? Tom

Tom Meyer · 12-19-2013, 09:43 PM

1964-1966 Chevy Chevelle HP change in the guide from 220 to 217 in SS as of 1-1-14, but not listed in the new adjustments just released? Tom
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Same engine in a chevy II is 236 that's 19 hp less. So if I would race a chevelle in SS/LA a 13 lb class it could be 247 lb lighter than a chevy II with the same engine. How much ET would that be worth .Also why would you what to run SS/LA when you could run SS/MA where there is 4 tenths difference in index and only 2 tenths between L and K. Tom

JRyan · 12-20-2013, 01:06 AM

Tom,

If you can get a '65 Chevelle down to 2990 with driver for SS/LA -- you be cheatin'. Time to break out the old 4-door again. When we last ran it, it was 3460 lbs. for SS/MA. Now, it's only 3425 lbs. for SS/NA, and 3210 for SS/MA.

But heck, racing the Chevelle against your Nova II is like a Clydesdale against a throughbred. You deserve at least some of that 17 HP. \

Jerry

Mike Semeniuk · 12-20-2013, 01:09 AM

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Tom Moock · 12-20-2013, 02:59 AM

Jerry, 283 SS chevelle 217 Hp, Impala 229 Hp, Chevy ll 236 Hp, Tom

Tom Meyer · 12-20-2013, 09:29 AM

I am not bitching we race the cars we like, I was just stirring the pot a little. The hard top chevy IIs with the current hp rating of 236 with a auto and current weight per hp is 11.99 that makes it a j car with a min weight of 2765 and if you can get a chevy II down to that you would be cheating too. In GT the hp on the 283s is 233. Tom

JRyan · 12-20-2013, 02:54 PM

Both Tom's,

Of course you know that I know it isn't right. The Chevy II's were one of the first cars "kinda" factored way back in the early eighties when they set the index for SS/LA at 11.75. That was done because at the time the Nova's were somewhat dominant I guess. But it wasn't fair to get the lower index and then get factored hard too.

But ya gotta remember, we were all at 235 HP at one time. That's why we built the Olds. There was no way we could keep up with the 307's back then at 3460 lbs.. Now, even though the Olds is fast, at 217 HP I'm pretty sure the 4-door will run right with it..

Jerry

12-19-2013, 08:42 PM	#14
Tom Moock Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 801 Likes: 1 Liked 10 Times in 6 Posts	Re: HP Adjustments - New Combo's Added 1964-1966 Chevy Chevelle HP change in the guide from 220 to 217 in SS as of 1-1-14, but not listed in the new adjustments just released? Tom __________________ Tom Moock 5704 STK Last edited by Tom Moock; 12-19-2013 at 08:44 PM. Reason: forgot SS

12-19-2013, 09:43 PM	#15
Tom Meyer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pierce NE Posts: 936 Likes: 78 Liked 351 Times in 120 Posts	Re: HP Adjustments - New Combo's Added 1964-1966 Chevy Chevelle HP change in the guide from 220 to 217 in SS as of 1-1-14, but not listed in the new adjustments just released? Tom __________________ Same engine in a chevy II is 236 that's 19 hp less. So if I would race a chevelle in SS/LA a 13 lb class it could be 247 lb lighter than a chevy II with the same engine. How much ET would that be worth .Also why would you what to run SS/LA when you could run SS/MA where there is 4 tenths difference in index and only 2 tenths between L and K. Tom __________________ Tom Meyer 5240 SS Stock ??? Last edited by Tom Meyer; 12-21-2013 at 02:25 PM. Reason: added more

12-20-2013, 01:06 AM	#16
JRyan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aberdeen SD Posts: 645 Likes: 30 Liked 112 Times in 31 Posts	Re: HP Adjustments - New Combo's Added Tom, If you can get a '65 Chevelle down to 2990 with driver for SS/LA -- you be cheatin'. Time to break out the old 4-door again. When we last ran it, it was 3460 lbs. for SS/MA. Now, it's only 3425 lbs. for SS/NA, and 3210 for SS/MA. But heck, racing the Chevelle against your Nova II is like a Clydesdale against a throughbred. You deserve at least some of that 17 HP. \ Jerry

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Mike Semeniuk Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sherwood Park, Alberta Posts: 99 Likes: 19 Liked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Re: HP Adjustments - New Combo's Added deleted __________________ Mike Semeniuk 632 GTMA

12-20-2013, 02:59 AM	#18
Tom Moock Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 801 Likes: 1 Liked 10 Times in 6 Posts	Re: HP Adjustments - New Combo's Added Jerry, 283 SS chevelle 217 Hp, Impala 229 Hp, Chevy ll 236 Hp, Tom __________________ Tom Moock 5704 STK

12-20-2013, 09:29 AM	#19
Tom Meyer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pierce NE Posts: 936 Likes: 78 Liked 351 Times in 120 Posts	Re: HP Adjustments - New Combo's Added I am not bitching we race the cars we like, I was just stirring the pot a little. The hard top chevy IIs with the current hp rating of 236 with a auto and current weight per hp is 11.99 that makes it a j car with a min weight of 2765 and if you can get a chevy II down to that you would be cheating too. In GT the hp on the 283s is 233. Tom __________________ Tom Meyer 5240 SS Stock ??? Last edited by Tom Meyer; 12-20-2013 at 09:31 AM.

12-20-2013, 02:54 PM	#20
JRyan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aberdeen SD Posts: 645 Likes: 30 Liked 112 Times in 31 Posts	Re: HP Adjustments - New Combo's Added Both Tom's, Of course you know that I know it isn't right. The Chevy II's were one of the first cars "kinda" factored way back in the early eighties when they set the index for SS/LA at 11.75. That was done because at the time the Nova's were somewhat dominant I guess. But it wasn't fair to get the lower index and then get factored hard too. But ya gotta remember, we were all at 235 HP at one time. That's why we built the Olds. There was no way we could keep up with the 307's back then at 3460 lbs.. Now, even though the Olds is fast, at 217 HP I'm pretty sure the 4-door will run right with it.. Jerry