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Ken Miele 12-19-2013 12:10 AM

HP Adjustments - New Combo's Added
 
Although the HP adjustments have not been announced, some are all ready listed in the guide. Also there have been new combos added for newer cars, check the guide for your particular combo.

There should be an announcement on Thursday.

kdanner 12-19-2013 04:36 AM

Re: HP Adjustments - New Combo's Added
 
2014 560hp 5.0 CJ, woo!

Looks like some errors. One 2014 302 combo is 350hp in some places yet 330 in others, and the head casting numbers for it don't agree with the given valve size.

ALMACK 12-19-2013 08:50 AM

Re: HP Adjustments - New Combo's Added
 
Thanks Ford !

However, the 3.7 V-6 Mustang ( @ 260 hp) should have been 230 h.p., IMO.

It will now be a lot harder to get that 260 h.p. starting point lowered so more racers will attempt the combo.

That N/A little V-6 needs to make 350 FWHP to run under the index.

Dan Fahey 12-19-2013 11:27 AM

Re: HP Adjustments - New Combo's Added
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 413102)
Thanks Ford !

However, the 3.7 V-6 Mustang ( @ 260 hp) should have been 230 h.p., IMO.

It will now be a lot harder to get that 260 h.p. starting point lowered so more racers will attempt the combo.

That N/A little V-6 needs to make 350 FWHP to run under the index.

AL..
I know the racer that turned in the tech spec's to get approved.
Think he ran close to the index on street tires.
Need to verify that.
But that Mustang has a really deep 1st gear.

Dan

goinbroke2 12-19-2013 01:14 PM

Re: HP Adjustments - New Combo's Added
 
Older combo's had more potential, new stuff is putting out a lot of hp/cube as it is and in this case there is no aftermarket support. This is 1.15hp/cube, older combo's started out around .65-.75 and you built it to 1.15.(that's 402hp for a 165hp 350 or 365hp for a 180hp 318 or 347hp for a 143hp 302)
Should've been 230 or less to get it out there, then hit with ahfs as it's run.

It's 227 cubes and while it's not a 2bbl 6 from the old days, at .65-.75 it would of been 147-170hp. 260 is a bit much imho.

(course we're bitching the new stuff isn't in the guide, now that it is, we're bitching about the hp! LOL!)

goinbroke2 12-19-2013 01:22 PM

Re: HP Adjustments - New Combo's Added
 
Speaking about hp/cube, I'm quite sure there's nothing in the guide rated as high as the 2010 mustang, 330 cube/ 636hp! That's 1.92hp per cube! Yes it's been refactored by NHRA, but wow!

ALMACK 12-19-2013 01:26 PM

Re: HP Adjustments - New Combo's Added
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 413124)
AL..
I know the racer that turned in the tech spec's to get approved.
Think he ran close to the index on street tires.
Need to verify that.
But that Mustang has a really deep 1st gear.

Dan

Thanks Dan.

Sounds promising, but I would be interested to hear what mods were done to run those times.

I would think it would need 4.56 gears ?

denbreeden 12-19-2013 02:39 PM

Re: HP Adjustments - New Combo's Added
 
5.7 Hemi, 300 HP. 12HP gift in SS & Stock I guess. I may be missing something but that's what was added to the guide.

Dennis Breeden

SuperCarFan 12-19-2013 02:48 PM

Re: HP Adjustments - New Combo's Added
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kdanner (Post 413096)
2014 560hp 5.0 CJ, woo!

Looks like some errors. One 2014 302 combo is 350hp in some places yet 330 in others, and the head casting numbers for it don't agree with the given valve size.

On www.nhraracer.com, I did not see the 2014 info for the Camaro or Ford. Where are you guys seeing the ratings? Thanks.

Eric Merryfield 12-19-2013 03:02 PM

Re: HP Adjustments - New Combo's Added
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denbreeden (Post 413148)
5.7 Hemi, 300 HP. 12HP gift in SS & Stock I guess. I may be missing something but that's what was added to the guide.

Dennis Breeden

Holy smokes, that is a street motor spec! I always have thought that this is what the guide needed, street cars gents.......3600lbs......The guys at Mopar didn't have the staff.

I think the first person to thank for this is Mr. Teuton!

Thank You Jeff and the NHRA tech!

Eric


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