G/SA Current Record

[jmcarter]

Evan, your solution favors the new cars too much; where FS is contested (with current indexes) guess who will lock up all the 'extra' points? And FS runs don't count against AFHS as currently ran so they run under whatever it takes while other cars risk HP to get qualified that high. Until such time as the newer car factors get a bit more 'leveled' via AFHS the upper class records will be dominated by them. With championships being decided by a single point they needed to be determined by the driver, not by how big a check they can write for a new car. Of course it's easy to get 100K+ tied up in a 'older' combination when you factor in R&D but what you've suggested gives too much advantage to the newer cars and the $$$ involved to invest in one of them plus updates along the way.

[Wade_Owens]

Originally Posted by Evan Smith

Top 8 (or 16) qualifiers at each event get points. Most points go to No.1 then a declining scale. Ex. No 1 qualifier gets 16 pts, No 16 gets 1 pt. Also, award 20 points for a national record, and to prevent going overboard with it, limit how many records you can set in a year. I would also love to see less classes with more cars, that would make a big difference, but only if there is a reward for it.

Boy, that would have sure shuffled your top ten finishers in Stock and Super Stock this year. Good luck getting that in the books.

Less classes, more heads ups would place an even larger advantage on the new cars. I am not a new car hater, just sayin'.....

Wade

[Michael Beard]

Also, award 20 points for a national record, and to prevent going overboard with it, limit how many records you can set in a year.

IHRA used to award 5pts for a Record, max of 2x per year. That was enough to make all the points chasers set records, go through teardown, etc. Records became deciding factors in some championships, with people even car-hopping, and record points became a thing of the past.

[treekiller]

I have a solution which is gonna sound ignorant to the old school die hards who think having the fastest car in a certain class is the most important thing on the earth . I have heard the whole "There is pride in making your car run the fastest within a certain set of rules" blah blah blah. Eliminate heads up runs in eliminations. Make everyone have a dial in. I have never had it happen but can you imagine taking a week off of work to go to a national event , spending thousands to do it and going two or three rounds driving your ***** off and catching some cat in your class in the fourth rd w a 100,000 car who doesn't even have to look at the tree, he can just watch you leave and run you down before the 330 mark. Now I ask is this gonna make you say damn I gotta get in the garage and find some hp that ain't gonna be enough to make up the three or four tents the guy in the 100,000 car has on you or are you gonna say f it and go bracket racing where the field is a bit more level ? Let guys set records in time trials and tear them down or don't. It's just gonna be copos dps mustangs and the glasbrenners and I know that heads up finals are rare but doing it this way would almost always ensure that everyone has a fair shot and you will win or lose based on your driving that day not how much money you have.

[treekiller]

A positive side effect of a change like that would be car counts going up because there are a lot of small time guys that don't go to Nast because of fast cars tear downs and the other assorted bs that nhra throws at the sportsman racer

[Ed Wright]

Why not just give everybody a trophy too?

[treekiller]

What does nhra offer someone for setting a record? you get a horse power hit and bragging rights?I'll take the trophy thanks

[Ed Wright]

Just because somebody spanks you in a heads up doesn't mean they have a $100.000.00 car. Could be they know more and work harder. Sounds like et brackets are more your speed.

[treekiller]

I only have a bracket car ed. That said the number of heads up races in eliminations that are 11.44 to 11.46 are uncommon and that's not a theory read the internet. They are usually 10.55 to a 10.79 and the 10.79 guy usually cuts a .005 and the other guy is .123 . Everything besides the pros and comp is a bracket race anyway so why should with an under factored car get a gift rd? What kind of car you got ed?

[Ed Wright]

I have an old '96 Pontiac Trans Am. SS/JA. It ain 't fancy. My heads ups have all been a couple hundredths. Last two have had MOV of 6" and 12".