I want to go Stocker Racing

Originally Posted by Harry 6674

So are you saying you have taken your car as far as pure stock allows? You are using all the best parts allowed and built the drivetrain as far as the pure stock rules allow?

Oh no ... by no means. We're running a $500 used street converter and stock transmission. A race converter and transmission with lightweight internals would go faster. Also, the car could take more gear. The longblock is stock other than a legal Bullet cam ... someone like Jeff Warren could pick it up significantly with better heads and shortblock tricks. A lot of weight could be removed and then relocated to the rear if necessary. There is honestly another half second in it if we got serious. But, if we put our OEM wheels and tires back on we could turn the AC on and drive this car across the country tomorrow.

[Harry 6674]

Originally Posted by Tar Heel

Oh no ... by no means. We're running a $500 used street converter and stock transmission. A race converter and transmission with lightweight internals would go faster. Also, the car could take more gear. The longblock is stock other than a legal Bullet cam ... someone like Jeff Warren could pick it up significantly with better heads and shortblock tricks. A lot of weight could be removed and then relocated to the rear if necessary. There is honestly another half second in it if we got serious. But, if we put our OEM wheels and tires back on we could turn the AC on and drive this car across the country tomorrow.

That is the point I was trying to make. Pure stock is cheaper for you because you want it that way. If you choose to try to make your car the fastest the cost would go up. It's the same in NHRA. Fast costs money.

Originally Posted by Harry 6674

That is the point I was trying to make. Pure stock is cheaper for you because you want it that way. If you choose to try to make your car the fastest the cost would go up. It's the same in NHRA. Fast costs money.

Yes, I agree with you. Good point. It does cost money to go as fast as you can and be the quickest. My additional point was that Pure Stock is a nice alternative. We haven't maxed our car out, run "off the shelf street" parts, and still are able to run almost 1 under. There aren't too many cars in each class and seem to be geographically spread out so the chances of a heads-up race are slim. I don't remember seeing one on DRC ever. Yes, we could spend another $15K+ to go 1.5 under but what's the point. What my original point was is that in NHRA Stock Eliminator it's about impossible to do it cheap. All the combinations have been twisted out, HP added, there's no more favorable AFHS unless it's a $100K+ new factory car, and with the popularity of NHRA class racing you're almost certain to go heads-up somewhere so you better bring lots of money. We don't face those issues. Heck, for the little investment we have (yes, the original car was expensive but we chose that) we could set an IHRA national record any time we want but I've never had the heads off the car and honestly don't know that I could get it all back together with just my wife and I in a teardown barn at a track.

If I lived near Charlotte, NC with all the IHRA tracks and events that they have locally I've never run anything but IHRA and would start out in Pure Stock and most likely stay there unless I won the lottery.

Scott

[LIGOOMBA]

The Pure Stock class seams very doable . Still leaning towards building the car . Paint body,engine, wiring ,plumbing, I can do by myself.trans and roll cage I will not attempt. I can tig and mig pretty good and do lots of fab work but still not that confident . I'm very meticulous when I do things , so what ever car I buy I'm gonna end up re painting and doing it to my likings . A roller with a good cage will work fine. The Camaro on racing junk looks like it would work, white with orange stripes,! I think he wants 5,500 rolling . Right now I can't do that , need to sell present car. Although this thread is very interesting . IHRA book on the way as well.

[Dan Fahey]

Seems to be a growing pent up demand to run Pure Stock.
Been getting a more frequent call or emails every week regarding Pure Stock and other details.

This incudes the new cars coming out of Detroit and Imports.
Too bad NHRA Classification Guide is way behind adding the new cars to the Guide.

IHRA Marketing should take the bull by the horns and do it themselves.
Get the Guide updated and then add the Imports.
Guarantee participation will improve.

Unfortunately so would the cranky complaints that imports are competing.
No different than gripes about Pro Stock, Crate Motors, John Force ect.
Just part of racing.

Again the unexpected calls and emails have all been fun.
Economy is slowly coming back and Pure Stock is a cool way to jump in to Class Racing.

Dan

Originally Posted by LIGOOMBA

The Pure Stock class seams very doable . Still leaning towards building the car . Paint body,engine, wiring ,plumbing, I can do by myself.trans and roll cage I will not attempt. I can tig and mig pretty good and do lots of fab work but still not that confident . I'm very meticulous when I do things , so what ever car I buy I'm gonna end up re painting and doing it to my likings . A roller with a good cage will work fine. The Camaro on racing junk looks like it would work, white with orange stripes,! I think he wants 5,500 rolling . Right now I can't do that , need to sell present car. Although this thread is very interesting . IHRA book on the way as well.

Corbitt's Camaro is turn-key and already runs under the index. It has nice pieces in it and could go further under with a little work. He only has quality stuff.

[Robert Swartz]

Originally Posted by LIGOOMBA

The Pure Stock class seams very doable . Still leaning towards building the car . Paint body,engine, wiring ,plumbing, I can do by myself.trans and roll cage I will not attempt. I can tig and mig pretty good and do lots of fab work but still not that confident . I'm very meticulous when I do things , so what ever car I buy I'm gonna end up re painting and doing it to my likings . A roller with a good cage will work fine. The Camaro on racing junk looks like it would work, white with orange stripes,! I think he wants 5,500 rolling . Right now I can't do that , need to sell present car. Although this thread is very interesting . IHRA book on the way as well.

I also looked at that car. Nice piece from the pictures. That $5500 price is sans the good 12 bolt. Even at $8500 with the good rear, that's a good car. My wife even told me to get it, if I really thought I wanted it. Even she likes it.

Being a Pure Stock car, I don't have many close IHRA tracks. The combos in this part of the country, except for Jeff Ross Ohio series aren't real IHRA car friendly. Some, like Ohio Valley in Louisville, allow Crate stockers and SS/Production cars. Nothing else. Bowling Green won't allow IHRA cars at all. Here in Indiana it's a wasteland in regards to class racing, nobody does it. I class my Achieva in the IHRA FWD class but it has yet to sniff the index. Relatively speaking, I haven't spent any real money on it either.

Back to the Camaro. If you could find the money to swing it. If you are in proximity to a few IHRA tracks. Buying that car would not be a bad start.