Wheelie Bars are not needed for Safety on Stockers!

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by Signman

Ed,
For credibility sake why not jump in?

Because I want to race every week. Because I'm not going to take 3-4 days off from work to be told I have to park 1/2 mile away in some muddy field that I'll need to be towed out of if it rains while I sit waiting to run at a moments notice on a track that is either too cold or not prepped properly. Because I do/can race for more $ every week. Because I'm not going to spend $100K+ on a state of the art purpose built class car to run on tracks that are worse then one would find on a test/tune day. Because I refuse to be treated like the filler and also ran that you class racers are. Because I'm not going to tear my junk down so they can look for some minor infraction while the NHRA KNOWS most every stock eliminator competitor is running with heads/manifolds that have been ported. Because I'm not going to sticker my car up only to have to beg some manufactures for contingency money. Because you and some of your competitors think what you do is special while WE know you too are bracket racing and just paying more for the nhra class racing experience.

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Because I want to race every week. Because I'm not going to take 3-4 days off from work to be told I have to park 1/2 mile away in some muddy field that I'll need to be towed out of if it rains while I sit waiting to run at a moments notice on a track that is either too cold or not prepped properly. Because I do/can race for more $ every week. Because I'm not going to spend $100K+ on a state of the art purpose built class car to run on tracks that are worse then one would find on a test/tune day. Because I refuse to be treated like the filler and also ran that you class racers are. Because I'm not going to tear my junk down so they can look for some minor infraction while the NHRA KNOWS most every stock eliminator competitor is running with heads/manifolds that have been ported. Because I'm not going to sticker my car up only to have to beg some manufactures for contingency money. Because you and some of your competitors think what you do is special while WE know you too are bracket racing!

Certainly all good points ..........But then explain why you are hanging out here with diehard class racers who in your opinion must be nuts .If you're just here trying to pee on our Wheaties it won't be long till you suffer the same fate as you did on other boards ...........

[1320racer]

jack, belive it or not, not everyone that posts and lurks here is a stock/super stock racer. I post here offering first hand advice where I can and my opinion on other subjects no different than anyone else. No where did I see in the rules for this forum that it was required that all posters must be an active stock/super stock racers.

That said, this is ken's playground and if he wants to stop me from posting 1st hand advice and as well my opinion on various commentaries because it doesn't conform to what those with higher posts counts feel, that's his choice.

The truth and the facts are what they are despite those that refuse to believe or agree!

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

jack, belive it or not, not everyone that posts and lurks here is a stock/super stock racer. I post here offering first hand advice where I can and my opinion on other subjects no different than anyone else. No where did I see in the rules for this forum that it was required that all posters must be an active stock/super stock racers.

That said, this is ken's playground and if he wants to stop me from posting 1st hand advice and as well my opinion on various commentaries because it doesn't conform to what those with higher posts counts feel, that's his choice.

The truth and the facts are what they are despite those that refuse to believe or agree!

Because something is your opinion it doesn't make it fact or the truth .........That and you have absolutely no first hand advise not being a Stock / SuperStock racer as most of us are .

[1320racer]

it's advice jack and again, everything I have stated about the NHRA class racing experience is true and fact, based on what I have seen with my own eyes, what I have read here on this forum and elsewhere and what I have been told by friends that are stock/super stock, super gas, super comp and super street racers for a long time.

[Signman]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Because I want to race every week. Because I'm not going to take 3-4 days off from work to be told I have to park 1/2 mile away in some muddy field that I'll need to be towed out of if it rains while I sit waiting to run at a moments notice on a track that is either too cold or not prepped properly. Because I do/can race for more $ every week. Because I'm not going to spend $100K+ on a state of the art purpose built class car to run on tracks that are worse then one would find on a test/tune day. Because I refuse to be treated like the filler and also ran that you class racers are. Because I'm not going to tear my junk down so they can look for some minor infraction while the NHRA KNOWS most every stock eliminator competitor is running with heads/manifolds that have been ported. Because I'm not going to sticker my car up only to have to beg some manufactures for contingency money. Because you and some of your competitors think what you do is special while WE know you too are bracket racing and just paying more for the nhra class racing experience.

Jumped right on that like a bass on a June Bug Didn't Ya!
The Bracket Finals is run like a points race and you would not miss that!

Much of what you state is only partially true.
Just point of view and experience. How ever limited.

[1320racer]

EVERYTHING I stated is TRUE and some of your competitors have told me so, competitors that have been doing this far longer than you. Since you don't compete at every divisional or national event, your experience is limitied!

Without question the bracket final is another nhra circus event that I and many others have grown tired of too.

[Ed Wright]

1320 said:
Don't know who you spoke to but you nor he can make that blanket statement!

I don't guess I was clear. ATI builds converters for the other kinds of cars I mentioned, he said they don't build the SAME converter for all the different kinds of cars I mentioned. He said if you put my SS converter in a "10.5 shoot out" car they would just blow the tires off. I used to run local et brackets, I could set the shocks and limiters and it was fine all day. At national events we have the fuel cars, etc, running also. The track changes all weekend. The starting line "is like a box of chocolates".
I'm sure lower powered cars don't have as much a problem with as a blown CJ or COPO. Your cars and your racing is more different from ours than you appear to think.

Am I jealous of you? Really? Not real sure why you would think so.

[Todd Geisler]

If bars were solely for safety reasons, then why are they not made mandatory by NHRA instead of optional as they are now?

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by Todd Geisler

If bars were solely for safety reasons, then why are they not made mandatory by NHRA instead of optional as they are now?

Jeez, that's so obvious. They are not mandatory because not all cars need them.