New D1 Rule for Stock/SS - Page 2

Ed Wright · 03-07-2013, 09:10 PM

I have never been to a track that didn't allow cars to be started until the announcer called cars to the lanes. You only have to be the first pairs down the track, not to the staging lanes.

keith ohanesian · 03-08-2013, 12:46 AM

I have to say this makes me laugh. The people they are waiting for are making money at a national event. DUH!

dartman · 03-08-2013, 12:18 PM

at the dutch last year or the year before ,I waited 20 minutes after the first call then went up.Bob Bender and I were the only two car there after 30 minutes.Bob Lang sent us down (so much for 1st round random pairing ) He said "get ready ,we will use you two to motivate the rest of them to get up here" .So we went down and I made it back to my trailer, then walk to the fence just as the 2nd pair of cars went down the track.so I see their problem.

Jim Kaekel · 03-08-2013, 01:11 PM

This was done the past year in Division 3 successfully for the most part. I had the fortune of being in the first pair twice in a row, Indy & Norwalk. I do recall a spot "being saved" for one the notorious late comers at the Indy divisional. He finally showed right before they pulled us up, but of course his lane choice had already been made by his opponent and rightfully so.

Bill Pomponi · 03-08-2013, 03:47 PM

[quote=Patrick Kelliher;372291]One problem with first round is that you can't start your engine until first call. So if you start your car as soon as possible, you can't do a morning warm up before you must be at the lanes. If they want the morning to get going, start with classes like the Super Classes that don't have that problem. [quote]

I support this approach

Sean Marconette · 03-08-2013, 06:53 PM

D5 has had first round pairings the last couple of seasons, at the races I attended. Great Bend Divisional 1st pair, a guy received a single, as his opponent did not show up in time. I think it's a great way to get things moving, or start giving singles to the people that have their act together.

Sean

Charlie Yannetti · 03-09-2013, 10:42 AM

It is done in Comp at all National Events, and some Divisionals.. it does get the pack moving...

442OLDS · 03-09-2013, 11:08 AM

Hope to see it at the National events.Its a nice incentive to try and qualify last.

Tom Goldman · 03-09-2013, 02:49 PM

I think if you can get to the lanes on time for ANY round and your competitor cannot show up on time , you should recieve a earned bye run.
I've been told to just get in my car at the end of the line and wait untill my pair finally showed. ....in one case only one pair was left in front of me when my competitor showed up.....Total BS.
Should be the rule for every class , Period.
If you are running two classes, get more help or less cars.

tpoh815 · 03-10-2013, 11:20 AM

The way I see it is some of the bottom pack that are playing the ladder do so because they can. Now they will play it a different way!

03-07-2013, 09:10 PM	#11
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: New D1 Rule for Stock/SS I have never been to a track that didn't allow cars to be started until the announcer called cars to the lanes. You only have to be the first pairs down the track, not to the staging lanes. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

03-08-2013, 12:46 AM	#12
keith ohanesian Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 392 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: New D1 Rule for Stock/SS I have to say this makes me laugh. The people they are waiting for are making money at a national event. DUH! __________________ No prep is king

03-08-2013, 12:18 PM	#13
dartman Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: N.S. CANADA Posts: 498 Likes: 160 Liked 68 Times in 41 Posts	Re: New D1 Rule for Stock/SS at the dutch last year or the year before ,I waited 20 minutes after the first call then went up.Bob Bender and I were the only two car there after 30 minutes.Bob Lang sent us down (so much for 1st round random pairing ) He said "get ready ,we will use you two to motivate the rest of them to get up here" .So we went down and I made it back to my trailer, then walk to the fence just as the 2nd pair of cars went down the track.so I see their problem. __________________ 1231 FS/D Drag Pak 1231 E/SA 71 Demon Kelly MacKay

03-08-2013, 01:11 PM	#14
Jim Kaekel VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,228 Likes: 133 Liked 532 Times in 109 Posts	Re: New D1 Rule for Stock/SS This was done the past year in Division 3 successfully for the most part. I had the fortune of being in the first pair twice in a row, Indy & Norwalk. I do recall a spot "being saved" for one the notorious late comers at the Indy divisional. He finally showed right before they pulled us up, but of course his lane choice had already been made by his opponent and rightfully so. __________________ Jim Kaekel 3836 STK

03-08-2013, 03:47 PM	#15
Bill Pomponi Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North Granby, Connecticut Posts: 212 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New D1 Rule for Stock/SS [quote=Patrick Kelliher;372291]One problem with first round is that you can't start your engine until first call. So if you start your car as soon as possible, you can't do a morning warm up before you must be at the lanes. If they want the morning to get going, start with classes like the Super Classes that don't have that problem. [quote] I support this approach Last edited by Bill Pomponi; 03-08-2013 at 03:50 PM.

03-08-2013, 06:53 PM	#16
Sean Marconette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 977 Likes: 796 Liked 275 Times in 76 Posts	Re: New D1 Rule for Stock/SS D5 has had first round pairings the last couple of seasons, at the races I attended. Great Bend Divisional 1st pair, a guy received a single, as his opponent did not show up in time. I think it's a great way to get things moving, or start giving singles to the people that have their act together. Sean __________________ Sean Marconette 84 Mustang 5060 SS/N

03-09-2013, 10:42 AM	#17
Charlie Yannetti Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alpine, NJ Posts: 568 Likes: 188 Liked 192 Times in 83 Posts	Re: New D1 Rule for Stock/SS It is done in Comp at all National Events, and some Divisionals.. it does get the pack moving...

03-09-2013, 11:08 AM	#18
442OLDS VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Elgin,IL Posts: 1,339 Likes: 5 Liked 282 Times in 103 Posts	Re: New D1 Rule for Stock/SS Hope to see it at the National events.Its a nice incentive to try and qualify last.

03-09-2013, 02:49 PM	#19
Tom Goldman VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Allentown,PA Posts: 2,476 Likes: 891 Liked 882 Times in 236 Posts	Re: New D1 Rule for Stock/SS I think if you can get to the lanes on time for ANY round and your competitor cannot show up on time , you should recieve a earned bye run. I've been told to just get in my car at the end of the line and wait untill my pair finally showed. ....in one case only one pair was left in front of me when my competitor showed up.....Total BS. Should be the rule for every class , Period. If you are running two classes, get more help or less cars. __________________ Tom Goldman 1500 SG , 1506 STK

03-10-2013, 11:20 AM	#20
tpoh815 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: West Seneca Posts: 537 Likes: 62 Liked 28 Times in 11 Posts	Re: New D1 Rule for Stock/SS The way I see it is some of the bottom pack that are playing the ladder do so because they can. Now they will play it a different way! __________________ EX 5-Doorstocker