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Old 02-19-2013, 01:08 PM   #1
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It's ok guys and gals....now we know if it happens to us we ALL get a re-run!!!

Not taking anything away from Jimmy, he deserved the re-run...but NHRA, please figure out a solution to this BS and make it fair for everyone that this happens to. (or figure out the problem so it never happens again)
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:38 PM   #2
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It's ok guys and gals....now we know if it happens to us we ALL get a re-run!!!

Not taking anything away from Jimmy, he deserved the re-run...but NHRA, please figure out a solution to this BS and make it fair for everyone that this happens to. (or figure out the problem so it never happens again)
Thats true----- New rule...... When it happens again, We ALL get a re-run !!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:59 PM   #3
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Thats true----- New rule...... When it happens again, We ALL get a re-run !!!!!!!!!!!
Based on past decisions there should not have been a rerun.
But now what is a great question to think about???
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:25 PM   #4
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yes this is going to come back and haunt NHRA and i tell you what if it happens to me there better be a re run.NHRA has opened up a can of worms on this one.there should have not had a re run!!!! and if anybody thinks it was a camara flash i have some beach front property 30 miles offshore i want to sell you.

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Old 02-19-2013, 04:37 PM   #5
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If I win, I win and I won't come back for a re-run unless NHRA can prove to me, right then and there that there was a problem with their equipment that can be proven, without a doubt. "I think a camera flash caused it" isn't good enough. I'd be willing to wager a guess that the first winner has less than a 25% chance of winning again when you take into account the extreme emotions involved in a win and then pulling the rug out from under you. And going from a eurphoic high to down right pissed off. All the while the other guy is calm as when the issue started. Let me revise the chance down to 15% or less.
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:33 PM   #6
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I personally think Mike got the shaft.
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:34 PM   #7
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I'd be willing to wager a guess that the first winner has less than a 25% chance of winning again when you take into account the extreme emotions involved in a win and then pulling the rug out from under you. And going from a eurphoic high to down right pissed off. All the while the other guy is calm as when the issue started. Let me revise the chance down to 15% or less.
I agree that it is tough to win two times in a row.The last time I had a rerun,I got my butt kicked the second time.

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If I win, I win and I won't come back for a re-run unless NHRA can prove to me, right then and there that there was a problem with their equipment that can be proven, without a doubt. "I think a camera flash caused it" isn't good enough. I'd be willing to wager a guess that the first winner has less than a 25% chance of winning again when you take into account the extreme emotions involved in a win and then pulling the rug out from under you. And going from a eurphoic high to down right pissed off. All the while the other guy is calm as when the issue started. Let me revise the chance down to 15% or less.
Jeff, in my opinion you would just guarantee that you lost that race/round as NHRA would declare your opponent the winner when you did not show up for the rerun.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:06 PM   #9
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And if your red light comes on for any reason, you will calmly accept your supposed loss? If a piece of paper blows through the lights and shows you breaking out by three seconds, you'd just accept that? If a photocell hangs and you are attributed with a .150 R/T and every incremental is exactly .10 quick, you'd just accept that? If you went through the finish line in a nearly heads-up race and it was so close you couldn't even tell who got there first, and the timeslip said that your opponent got there first by .200, and you were .200 off your dial, despite all of your incrementals and mph matching another run, you'd just accept that? (Believe it or not, I've seen that happen... more than once.) Errors happen. Glitches happen. Components fail. Humans are make mistakes. I understand needing to have a level of trust in the timing system, but we also need to recognize when something's not right.

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I'll take that wager. In fact, it's happened, even in circumstances where there was a re-run that was demonstrably *not* called for. You're there to execute a run to the best of your ability. You can be glad, sad, or whatever when you're in the pits, the lanes, or the burnout box, but when you're on the starting line, shut it off. It's business.

When I operate an event and there's an issue, I don't even want to know who's involved, if at all possible. You need the facts and circumstances, peroid. The individuals shouldn't matter. If the situation was reversed and you come up with a different answer, there's a problem.

In my opinion, races should be won or lost on the race track by the driver's actions, not by an unexplainable glitch, particularly one that has been documented to have occurred at multiple tracks.
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With the new system, the pre-stage and stage lights *stay* out once it thinks the car has left the line (ie., you don't see them flicker as the rear tires pass through the starting line). In the photo, you can see the red-light is already on, despite the pre-stage and stage bulbs remaining lit.
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