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Old 02-09-2013, 05:41 PM   #11
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How about the racer who goes out in these conditions ON KILL ..and goes fast ..
famous last words'" I didn't know it was fast."... COME ON MAN!
The problem is the guy that goes fast enough to get a hit can usually afford to take the hit.
It's the guy that never gets to run in "mineshaft" conditions that gets hurt from a hit.
They get hit, then can't make the field at Indy or get beat in a heads-up run.
But that's the way it goes.
Anyone can put a car in bracket mode. But if you blow a class win or a heads up race protecting. You should not be racing.
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:12 PM   #12
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The problem is the guy that goes fast enough to get a hit can usually afford to take the hit.
It's the guy that never gets to run in "mineshaft" conditions that gets hurt from a hit.
They get hit, then can't make the field at Indy or get beat in a heads-up run.
But that's the way it goes.
Anyone can put a car in bracket mode. But if you blow a class win or a heads up race protecting. You should not be racing.
And if you don't have a lot of guys running your combo the average changes fast. Harder to get back down I would guess.

I sure agree with your last statement. Especially heads ups and class at Indy.
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Old 02-10-2013, 05:40 PM   #13
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:14 PM   #14
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And if you don't have a lot of guys running your combo the average changes fast. Harder to get back down I would guess.

I sure agree with your last statement. Especially heads ups and class at Indy.
In a case like mine (one other car in the class) I can try to control my own fate. I take 1,000 out of each shift point, run a tire that is 2.5" taller. If I mess with the timing much I can't get it to clean out before I stage (that will be worked on a bit shortly) All in all I can knock .035 off, and I'll just lift a bit early. At Reynolds last year I was braking hard at the 1/8 mile. That seemed to give my competition fits. Nothing like crossing the finish line at a blistering 40 mph.
That will do for eliminations and points meets (hopefully I can get a few .036 to .040 unders).
In the class eliminations I'll use as much as I have to. If I draw a hit so be it. I'm not going to worry one bit about it. I spent a couple of races worrying about how fast I was going to go more than if I was going to win or lose. That was one of the most stupid times of my life. I felt like I was putting my hand out the window for the time slip while I was going by the 1/8 mile marker.
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Well anybody that wants to come play in Comp we welcome you. Watch out for that CIC though. As mentioned earlier, at -.61 under you hit it and everyone in your class, regardless of the combo, gets it. Nothing like getting flamed by guys from across the country that are not even in the hunt for a Divisional or National Championship. The real difference is that in Comp the drivers usually, but not always, hit the index when they are trying to win a race or a Divisional/National championship. I have seen some SS/S racers trigger it for no apparent reason. Before you blast me, yes we do have a SS car too. Looking forward to seeing everyone in Pomona.
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Well anybody that wants to come play in Comp we welcome you. Watch out for that CIC though. As mentioned earlier, at -.61 under you hit it and everyone in your class, regardless of the combo, gets it. Nothing like getting flamed by guys from across the country that are not even in the hunt for a Divisional or National Championship. The real difference is that in Comp the drivers usually, but not always, hit the index when they are trying to win a race or a Divisional/National championship. I have seen some SS/S racers trigger it for no apparent reason. Before you blast me, yes we do have a SS car too. Looking forward to seeing everyone in Pomona.
The pound per cubic inch SS cars are the same they hit the class index not the combo.
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:18 AM   #17
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Gainesville this weekend: 65 daytime 35 nightime sunny. With that comes the barometer. Is that mineshaft? Who is coming? Set a record? Maybe we can get a tailwind too!
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Gainesville this weekend: 65 daytime 35 nightime sunny. With that comes the barometer. Is that mineshaft? Who is coming? Set a record? Maybe we can get a tailwind too!
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Yep when the barometer is good break out the ol trusty dusty timing light, set er back 10 and add a ton of weight. If still in question, lift at 1000. In Comp, when the barometer is good, chances are you wont get by more than 2 rounds without taking permanent CIC. Mineshaft in Stock / Super Stock is quite simple, just keep it in yer pants big fella. You cant have your cake and eat it too.

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Gaineville this weekend .....Nightime lows high 20s to low 30s. Daytime highs Upper 50s to low 60s. Winds - gusty out of the west (Tail). Chance of rain 30%. Sure sounds fast to me! Could be interesting.
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