Foxbody Stocker/Bracket Racer

Jeff Swanson · 12-26-2012, 02:27 PM

Scott, I've been out of the Stocker game for awhile but I'd take the HO @ 215hp over the '93 Cobra @ 252. Take a look at the '88 Saleen: HO combo, it can make I/SA @ 2750#, and you can run an auto. Some added expense for the body kit. I haven't surfed every year of the 87-93 LX Hatch cars, but I think the Saleen is the only one that will make I/SA right now. Double check me, if you find one (12.99 factor or lower) there would be no reason to do the Saleen other than to be different. If you don't care about running the faster class then stick with what you've got.

I never broke an 8.8 in my '93 Cobra Stocker. If you were buying everything from scratch I'd go the 9" route. You've already got an 8.8, beef it up as your budget allows. It'll last forever.

SwillRacer · 12-29-2012, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Swanson

Take a look at the '88 Saleen: HO combo, it can make I/SA @ 2750#, and you can run an auto. Some added expense for the body kit. I haven't surfed every year of the 87-93 LX Hatch cars, but I think the Saleen is the only one that will make I/SA right now. Double check me, if you find one (12.99 factor or lower) there would be no reason to do the Saleen other than to be different. If you don't care about running the faster class then stick with what you've got.

Jeff/Anyone,

I've spent the last 45 minutes on nhraracer.com trying to hunt down the specs for Saleen mustangs and have found absolutely nothing. Where are you guys getting your info on the Saleen and its I/SA potential? Obviously, I am missing something somewhere....

Jeff Swanson · 12-29-2012, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SwillRacer

Jeff/Anyone,

I've spent the last 45 minutes on nhraracer.com trying to hunt down the specs for Saleen mustangs and have found absolutely nothing. Where are you guys getting your info on the Saleen and its I/SA potential? Obviously, I am missing something somewhere....

The engine specs are the same as any '88 225/215hp 5.0 HO found in the GTs and LXs. You can find car itself in the Stock Car Classification Guide under 1988 Ford. It's the last Mustang listed.

What are you looking for specifically?

SwillRacer · 12-30-2012, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Swanson

The engine specs are the same as any '88 225/215hp 5.0 HO found in the GTs and LXs. You can find car itself in the Stock Car Classification Guide under 1988 Ford. It's the last Mustang listed.

What are you looking for specifically?

Ya know what, it was a rookie mistake on my part. I was looking at the classification for 1989 which is my cars model year and there is no Saleen specs. Why do the Saleen's get to weigh so much less? I'm guessing its because of the Saleen's lighter weight suspension parts = lighter shipping weight?

SwillRacer · 12-30-2012, 02:11 AM

Well, here's what I've been up to tonight while most of you are watch bowl games and drinking beer. LOL!

First, I pulled the T-5. (Sorry about the size and orientation of this pic. I rotated it in photobucket and when I view it in there it looks right, but not here for some reason - Yes I did save my changes in photobucket!)

Then I went after the short block.

I still have the car up on jack stands so I was questioning whether I'd be able to get the engine up high enough to clear the fenders and core. Turns out I had about 6 inches to spare!! Yeeeeehaaaaa!!

And here is where I stopped for the night. My master bedroom is right over the garage so I didn't want the compressor to be kicking on/off too late and wake up the wife. This is what 120K miles and a few years of sitting around looks like. Before I do anything else I'm going to have to head over to Harbor Freight and pick up a parts washer.

SwillRacer · 12-30-2012, 02:22 AM

what do you guys recommend for getting rust off the exterior surfaces of the block? Sand blast? Angle die grinder with some of those fiber surface cleaner discs?

In my experience I've been fortunate to only have worked on new racing blocks so they were always nice and clean before we painted them. I've never really had to contend with all this rust and sludge. I guess I'm spoiled.

Jeff Swanson · 12-30-2012, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SwillRacer

Why do the Saleen's get to weigh so much less? I'm guessing its because of the Saleen's lighter weight suspension parts = lighter shipping weight?

I can't see any reason why a Saleen would be any lighter than a Mustang GT. Back in the day I think someone had Ford submit a "creative" shipping weight for the Saleen so that it would fit the faster SS/GT classes with a Cleveland.

Damn Yankee · 12-30-2012, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Swanson

I can't see any reason why a Saleen would be any lighter than a Mustang GT. Back in the day I think someone had Ford submit a "creative" shipping weight for the Saleen so that it would fit the faster SS/GT classes with a Cleveland.

I know where there is a 428 FE GT/B Saleen Mustang that is really light...........pretty sure he has dipped in the 8's as well

Jeff Swanson · 12-30-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Damn Yankee

I know where there is a 428 FE GT/B Saleen Mustang that is really light...........pretty sure he has dipped in the 8's as well

About 5 miles from my house.

The LeBlanc Saleen is a bad hombre. 8.9x in GT/A.

12-26-2012, 02:27 PM	#1
Jeff Swanson Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Arlington, TN Posts: 123 Likes: 734 Liked 62 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Foxbody Stocker/Bracket Racer Scott, I've been out of the Stocker game for awhile but I'd take the HO @ 215hp over the '93 Cobra @ 252. Take a look at the '88 Saleen: HO combo, it can make I/SA @ 2750#, and you can run an auto. Some added expense for the body kit. I haven't surfed every year of the 87-93 LX Hatch cars, but I think the Saleen is the only one that will make I/SA right now. Double check me, if you find one (12.99 factor or lower) there would be no reason to do the Saleen other than to be different. If you don't care about running the faster class then stick with what you've got. I never broke an 8.8 in my '93 Cobra Stocker. If you were buying everything from scratch I'd go the 9" route. You've already got an 8.8, beef it up as your budget allows. It'll last forever.

12-30-2012, 02:11 AM	#5
SwillRacer Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 42 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 1 Post	Re: Foxbody Stocker/Bracket Racer Well, here's what I've been up to tonight while most of you are watch bowl games and drinking beer. LOL! First, I pulled the T-5. (Sorry about the size and orientation of this pic. I rotated it in photobucket and when I view it in there it looks right, but not here for some reason - Yes I did save my changes in photobucket!) Then I went after the short block. I still have the car up on jack stands so I was questioning whether I'd be able to get the engine up high enough to clear the fenders and core. Turns out I had about 6 inches to spare!! Yeeeeehaaaaa!! And here is where I stopped for the night. My master bedroom is right over the garage so I didn't want the compressor to be kicking on/off too late and wake up the wife. This is what 120K miles and a few years of sitting around looks like. Before I do anything else I'm going to have to head over to Harbor Freight and pick up a parts washer.

12-30-2012, 02:22 AM	#6
SwillRacer Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 42 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 1 Post	Re: Foxbody Stocker/Bracket Racer what do you guys recommend for getting rust off the exterior surfaces of the block? Sand blast? Angle die grinder with some of those fiber surface cleaner discs? In my experience I've been fortunate to only have worked on new racing blocks so they were always nice and clean before we painted them. I've never really had to contend with all this rust and sludge. I guess I'm spoiled.