502 Ram-Jet Crate Engine Bracket Racer ?

[1320racer]

Larry, bracket racing is all about keeping it simple aka KISS and the formula that works is overtired and underpowered as well a glide and a single 4 barrel carb.

That said, I've been bracket racing for 20 years and have yet to see one 502 Ram-Jet GM crate engine in any bracket car in any class. First and foremost is probably because for $11,000 you can buy/build a far better bracket engine.

You can build a decades proven 468-496 that will go hundreds of passes before needing to be freshened with nothing special factory cast iron heads, a victor jr. manifold and 850 carb that will make anywhere from 600 to 700+HP depending on the heads, cam and compression and you'll have money left over.

[HP HUNTER]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Larry, bracket racing is all about keeping it simple aka KISS and the formula that works is overtired and underpowered as well a glide and a single 4 barrel carb.

That said, I've been bracket racing for 20 years and have yet to see one 502 Ram-Jet GM crate engine in any bracket car in any class. First and foremost is probably because for $11,000 you can buy/build a far better bracket engine.

You can build a decades proven 468-496 that will go hundreds of passes before needing to be freshened with nothing special factory cast iron heads, a victor jr. manifold and 850 carb that will make anywhere from 600 to 700+HP depending on the heads, cam and compression and you'll have money left over.

Ed, thats 600-800 HP.

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by HP HUNTER

Ed, thats 600-800 HP.

You're not building an 800 HP 468-496 using factory cast iron heads from oil pan to carb for under $11K

[HP HUNTER]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

You're not building an 800 HP 468-496 using factory cast iron heads from oil pan to carb for under $11K

I have, I would build them nonstop intake to pan for 11,000. Believe it or not its pretty easy to get 800 out of a 496, the down side is the power peak is on the low side.

[1320racer]

I did say oil pan to carb and I kn ow what's required to get an honest 800HP out of a 496.

That said, you'd have a hard time convincing me and many others that you build/sell a 468-496 using factory castings that makes 800HP, proved on the track for $11K.

[HP HUNTER]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

I did say oil pan to carb.

That said, you'd have a hard time convincing me and many others that you build/sell a 468-496 using factory castings that makes 800HP, proved on the track for $11K.

We know Johns been 138.3 @ 3615 in 800 feet air with no tuning with 32 degrees timing, this 10.7 compression engine made 774 on my dyno, I think its shows the power, another point of compression pushes it over 800. I wouldnt want to include the carb for 11,000.

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by HP HUNTER

We know Johns been 138.3 @ 3615 in 800 feet air with no tuning with 32 degrees timing, this 10.7 compression engine made 774 on my dyno, I think its shows the power, another point of compression pushes it over 800. I wouldnt want to include the carb for 11,000.

1. 774HP ain't 800HP
2. we only know what he and you have stated and both you have a reputation not telling the whole truth. least of which is like his engine is backed up by a $6,000 lite weight trans and the air was more like -500'
3. this ain' the op's question or topic

[Larry D]

Just a quick note to say. I have a small machine shop in the very middle of nowhere. Several years ago I ordered a Ram-Jet 502 Engine for a Customers Car. The Ram-Jet F.I. Unit would not fit under the hood. Because it came installed on the the 502 engine once it was removed from the engine it was un-returnable. So I purchased all the 502-502
Hardware from G.M. to make my customer happy. I was stuck with The Ram-Jet F.I. Unit. I havent been able to sell this unit and Its a Novel idea and I have all the parts to do it . Every Hot Rodder out there knowns what the E.C.M.'s have done for Engines in General. I am just asking can that also be a good thing for Bracket racing ?
Thanks Larry D

[1320racer]

There's a reason why you haven't been able to sell it and No!

[Larry D]

1320 Racer Thanks for your Imput ! !